i want to play a sound bite for you, richard, from a conversation i had with jeffrey gunlock, so-called bond king out of california, who talked about the fed specifically chairman powell and the pivot and then how he not only sounded but acted in the most recent news conference let's listen to that, and we can react on the other side, if we might. >> go ahead. >> frankly, jay powell's most recent press conference looked lost to me or maybe the right word is scared scared to say anything so we're kind of rudderless in terms of the fed they want things to be held together and they don't want to say anything or change their rhetoric or scare anybody. >> what do you make of that? are they gun shy because of those words that so upset the market earlier in the year, if not the end of last year >> i think i've said this on this show before, but just always reminds me -- he's a great investor but it reminds me what mickey mantle said about baseball the game is so much easier when you're in the broadcast booth rather than on the field so, you know, that's an interesting observation. he's never b