but on the other hand, i'm sure jeffrey hammonds would tell you he wouldn't trade the days he spent in the minor leagues for anything, right? [laughter] >> sure, phil. >> well, in fact, i wanted to -- i'm glad you transitioned this over to jeffrey, because as a player, special assistant player program development, and coach talked about skills, basically, versus ability. and so from a player development side, first of all, how long did you spend in the minor leagues? >> two months. [laughter] >> so you're an exception to the rule. >> to say the least. [laughter] >> do you know what is the average, is there an average amount of time that a major league ball player spends in the minor leagues before it gets a call? >> it's a lot longer than jeffreys. [laughter] >> you look at the mike trouts and guys you have here in town, there are some pitchers that are pushed through. we're talking about a robust economy. i don't want to pull the sheets back on that issue. the game has changed h. -- changed. phil, i'm not going to put you on blast here, but, you know, to put your brother on blast, but