to build upon those and i think there's an increased willingness to look at new ideas you know jeffrey lewis out there not to change the fundamental point ok jeffrey a lot of the south of the border a lot of people would say to the united states is far more concerned with security than with the consumption issue i mean should she not be balanced out a lot more because a lot of those guns i mean i don't know all the numbers because it's not legal but the guns come from the north and they go to the south and that's where all this killing is happening. that's certainly true the guns are right now coming substantially from the u.s. but it's silly to think that trying to prevent the guns from crossing the border to mexico or further south would make a huge difference there are lots of countries that produce guns if we do more to interdict guns going south they'll just be more violence related to the illegal gun trade the fundamental fact is there's a huge demand for guns right now in mexico because of the violence because of the risk and so we're not going to change that with any policy toward th