thank you so much, jeffrey lewis. we ask that question now in south korea where there are mixed messages following today's summit. while president moon jae-in expressed his satisfaction with the outcome of the talks, his defense department was more cautious saying that it needs to figure out president trump's accurate meaning and intention about ending those joint military exercises. my next guest joins me now from seoul with his own perspective on today's meetings. he is a distinguished professor at the university and is a national security adviser to president moon. he was in the room for the historic meeting with kim jong-un at the demilitarized zone in april, that meeting that led to the one we witnessed here in singapore. welcome to the program. let me just ask you off the bat, do you think the world might have to live with a nuclear armed north korea under a rigorous and robust arms control regime? >> no, i don't think so. we can really -- we can still make north korea give up nuclear weapons. i think -- i still

my mind whether the president can sustain this purely on the basis of his affection for zmooim jeffrey lewistting his mark. >> as in the partly cloudy p.m. hour mark. jeffrey appreciate it. that wraps things up for me. chris janicing is here now. >> katy tur thank you. i'm in for ali val she. we have a huge headline this hour. the summit is back on. president trump announcing that on again off again meeting with north korean leader kim jong-un, less than two weeks away is indeed officially happening this. hour, president trump is heading to camp david, we're told, to prepare for that meeting. just moments ago, the president met for more than an hour with the top aide to kim jong-un, who hand delivered a letter from the north korean leader. >> we are

let's bring back steve clemmons and jeffrey lewis. the first thing that struck me was that the president said that he will talk abductees with north korea as japan has asked them to do. >> well, it's an important thg. i think amecans don't really understand how terribly the north koreans behaved during the period in which they were actively abducting japanese citizens. they would just grab people off the beach and it was really quite a large number. the challenge is going to be what do you do about it? these are crimes that were committed a long time ago. . abductees have died. and so there isn't really anything you can do that makes those families whole or achieves justice. we saw this a little bit in 2002, a conservative japanese prime minister met with kim jong-il in order to resolve the abductees issue. the first thing that the japanese wanted the north koreans to do was to acknowledge what they did and the impact of that in japan was explosive. just the act of the north koreans admitting, yes, they had a deliberate program of and

. >> back with me now is nbc's kristen welker in washington, jeffrey lewis from middlebury institute,in singapore, shauna thomas, washington bureau chief for vice news. welcome all. kristen and jeffrey, let's talk first about the young kim jong-un and what we know about him. to you, jeffrey, how surprising is it that he was a young sports fan and basketball fan, learned some german and english? >> well, it's not terribly surprising at all. the north korean leadership tends to send their children abroad, and for many years, there have been reports of family members at posh boarding schools. you know, i think it's not all that unusual when you think about it. there's a lot of cosmopolitan elites from around the world who live two lives. one cosmopolitan life when they're traveling abroad, and a traditional life at home. >> can you see the roots, the fact that he was westernized as a young boy, that he had an education, do you see the roots of how he may not be transforming himself on the world stage? certainly the propaganda value of what he's done in the last weeks and months really is

with me now, jeffrey lewis, nps director of the east asia nonproliferation problem at the middlebury ernational studies. jeffrey, what happens next? >> i have no earthly idea. i mean, this is so unlike an actual summit with an actual agreement that i'm prepared to accept any range of outcomes from, you know, they have another summit to donald trump literally forgets who kopg coim jong-un is. you know, it was really, really bizarre. >> what are the odds that north korea follows through to, as the president puts it, to denuke the whole place? >> i just love that we have a new term. stipulating that i don't know what it means to denuke, i think there is no chance that kim jong-un is going to abandon his nuclear weapons. you know, we actually got kim jong-un's response to a question one of the reporters shouted out to him, are young to get rid of your nuclear weapons, and he turned around and lad. so we don't a promisem the north koreans to disarm, but we do have a good big belly laugh from the evil dic letting us know that's not going to happen. >> what was your impression of our preside

my mind whether the president can sustain this purely on the basis of his affection for zmooim jeffrey lewis hitting his mark. >> as in the partly cloudy p.m. hour mark. jeffrey appreciate it. that wraps things up for me. chris janicing is here now. >> katy tur thank you. i'm in for ali val she. we have a huge headline this hour. the summit is back on. president trump announcing that on again off again meeting with north korean leader kim jong-un, less than two weeks away is indeed officially happening this. hour, president trump is heading to camp david, we're told, to prepare for that meeting. just moments ago, the president met for more than an hour with the top aide to kim jong-un, who hand delivered a letter from the north korean leader. >> we are meeting with the chairman on june 12th i think it's probably going to be a very successful -- ultimately a successful process. we'll see. remember what i say. we will see what we will see. >> and that's not the only headline in flux. 24 hours after launching the country into a trade war with its closest trading partners the president broke dec

. >> i want to bring in jeffrey too lin, and matt lewis. good evening gentlemen. lot of news to cover. this came out from the "new york times." here's the headline, biggoted infectless. the travel ban is president trump. white racial fear has always been at the trump core view. what's so dangerous, the supreme court now blessed his use of this strategy as a politically organizing tool and a governor philosophy. what's your view of this? >> we're going to be talking about the supreme court ruling 25 years from now, 50 years from now. the real question here is, are we going to let presidents use the sub te fuj to hide ethic bigotry. i think everybody knows this was the muslim ban dressed up in a tutu. >> you said sub fuj, i don't know how subtle it was. >> well, as the supreme court majority said repeatedly. if you look at the travel ban itself, they never say muslim, they include venezuela and north korea, which are not muslim countries. but, if you look at how this document came about and how this policy came about and the basis for it, it is the muslim ban. and,