jeffrey, what this could be telegraphing? terry, could this be the health care thing all over again? >> it very well could be politically, neilconservatives are on the right side of health care and on the right side of this. if you look at the budget document that the house budget committee put out they're aiming to balance the budget 10 years from now when many of these guys won't be in congress anymore. by the way 10 years from now they balance the budget, will only do it by $9 billion. they will spend 5 trillion and have a $9 billion surplus. that assumes they don't spend a single penny on war on terrorism. it is completely unrealistic. yet at the same time in their budget, excessive spending the government is doing is immoral because replacing this massive burden of debt on future generations we'll have a crisis, they are absolutely correct in the way they describe the fiscal situation the country is facing but they're not realistic in proposals they're making to solve it. neil: you know the worst thing, terry, you know you alienate everyone when you offend everyone. whatever initiatives taken kick off conservatives and m