jeffrey resnick maintains the history of medicine division at the library of medicine and has a highly collaborative portfolio for the nih and national library of medicine. as a social and cultural historian he is the editor of two books published by the manchester university press. prior to joining the national library of medicine, dr. resnick held other positions including director of institute or study of occupation and health of the american occupation foundation and senior curator for the armed forces institute of pathology. he earned his degrees from every -- emory university. next, all the way on the end, eric boyle. from 2012 to 2016, he was chief historian for the department of energy where he is also the primary archivist and federal preservation officer. his first book was published in 2013 and his current work includes a book project tentatively titled "in the belly of the beast: history of alternative medicine at the nih." so, you see why i am honored and delighted to be among such as deemed panelists. for our conversation today, the five of us talked about a few broad the