electee a professor of history at florida state university and here in the studio with me is jeffrey roberts they head of the school school of history at the university college cork in ireland and another member of our cross talk team on the hunger all right first of all i'd like to go to richard evans in cambridge. was justice served in nuremberg grave grave crimes were committed during the second world war nazi leaders were put on trial they were. put on trial sentenced and some of them put to death was justice served. yes on the whole i think it was have to remember that initially churchill and stalin both wanted to just kill the doubts the leaders so they were persuaded eventually to put them on trial and the trial was very carefully prepared and it presented an enormous amount of evidence which of course was shown to the german people so they could realise what exactly they'd been supporting so on the whole of course justice is seldom perfect and the nuremberg trials weren't perfect either i do think justice was served ok on that too it geoffrey robinson very important precedent for the

conspiracy to bring about war then surely this was this would have should have been indicted so jeffrey roberts point there that this was only indicting losers so to speak is quite correctly i realize i could just point problematical but just jump in there's some of the law about the nazis not some part was a conspiracy by hitler to bring about well from studies point of view the pact was about keeping the so you know keep neutral and that sense i don't think it was was and was a aggressive conspiracy in the sense that you'll suggest you know but what you're a big stand i don't know but i you know i was removing her terror and i read comment that has them or against me i mean this was mass murder and we have used the nuremberg precedent really they were terrible. we're talking about mass murder look we're. talking about genocide we're talking about widespread and systematic torture we're talking about the killing of people for their race so because their political opponents on a very wide scale that use water quite simply mass murder law is now the law that is practiced student be caught soon y

we've just been hearing too much from the john bolton's and the jeffrey goldberg of the world and now you know there's a new article by robert kaplan in the atlantic those reverting back to henry kissinger's book from one nine hundred fifty seven in which he talks about limited nuclear war as the best deterrence. do you think of these guys are a little too bomb happy. yeah but to put it in a word yes absolutely there are there are always going to be elements within every society who gravitate toward the u.s. or terror and toward the violence and for whom violence is the easiest solution and and there are going to be always intellectual snobbery society who are going to route violence the easy solution of violence which frankly typically isn't actually is a solution going to wrap it in an intellectual mystique and justification kissinger did that with it nom so i frankly i think unsuccessfully he's a i think most of the world judges him as a war criminal and and suggested that we should even consider nuclear as you point out back in the fifty's suggested that we should consider nuclear limited exchanges . kaplan now suggestin

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