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jeffrey roberts professor at university college of course an island thank you very much for being with us today thank you so here in russia there are two dimensionally different takes on sterling some say he was a great guy who won the second world war and he actually gave the country an immense post another state actually he undermined the economy which led to the eventual collapse of the u.s.s.r. what's your take on that when starving dog winston churchill was reported to have said that stalin found russia with a wooden plow and he left it with atomic bombs and i think that statement you know sums up stalin's achievement achievement was to modernize the soviet union to urbanize is all you can to dust your life to solve it you need to build the foundations of a country that was able to withstand the germany in beijing in ninety four to want to go on twitter patrol russia. and also the foundations for you know the post-war laws of the saudi you to a nuclear superpower you know if russia is still a great country. with an important role to play in the world and enormous potential for the
jeffrey roberts professor at university college of course an island thank you very much for being with us today thank you so here in russia there are two dimensionally different takes on sterling some say he was a great guy who won the second world war and he actually gave the country an immense post another state actually he undermined the economy which led to the eventual collapse of the u.s.s.r. what's your take on that when starving dog winston churchill was reported to have said that...
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. >>> so why did the chief justice, john roberts, join the liberals to save the health care plan? we'll ask jeffreycing gold choice. the freedom you can only get from hertz to keep the car you reserved or simply choose another. and it's free. ya know, for whoever you are that day. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. metamucil uses super hard working psyllium fiber, which gels to remove unsexy waste and reduce cholesterol. taking psyllium fiber won't make you a model but you should feel a little more super. metamucil. down with cholesterol. >>> some suggest the u.s. supreme court may have sprung a leak. cbs news citing two sources that chief justice john roberts did change his position to side with the liberal justices. jeffrey toobin is joining us and knows a lot about the supreme court. jeff, what do you make about this possible leak? what's going on in the court? >> first of all, my hat's off to jan crawford who broke the story. you only had to be in the courtroom and look at the justices' faces last thursday to see how emotionally engaged they were with this subject.
. >>> so why did the chief justice, john roberts, join the liberals to save the health care plan? we'll ask jeffreycing gold choice. the freedom you can only get from hertz to keep the car you reserved or simply choose another. and it's free. ya know, for whoever you are that day. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. metamucil uses super hard working psyllium fiber, which gels to remove unsexy waste and reduce cholesterol. taking psyllium fiber won't make...
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jeffrey toobin. jeff, let me begin with you. it's a simple question but not a simple answer. tax or penalty? >> john roberts' opinion said that this penalty, tax, whatever you want to call it, this punishment, this payment, was justified under the taxing power of the constitution. that was why he approved the whole plan. that's what he said. what a bunch of politicians want to call it is the fight we're having now. >> to be really clear, if you parse the opinion, it suggests that those who don't go out and get the insurance under the new law will be punished with a tax. >> correct. that's exactly what the opinion holds. it's not a lot of people. if massachusetts is the example we're talking about, it's about 1% of the population refused to get health insurance and can afford it, those people will be punished under this law and chief justice roberts' opinion says the payment that they have to make is a tax. >> so ari fleischer, to you then. why is the senior adviser to mitt romney saying this is not a tax? it seems like things are a bit upside down right now. >> i checked with the romney campaign today and i
jeffrey toobin. jeff, let me begin with you. it's a simple question but not a simple answer. tax or penalty? >> john roberts' opinion said that this penalty, tax, whatever you want to call it, this punishment, this payment, was justified under the taxing power of the constitution. that was why he approved the whole plan. that's what he said. what a bunch of politicians want to call it is the fight we're having now. >> to be really clear, if you parse the opinion, it suggests that...
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swing vote, you had your own cnn analyst jeffrey toobin two or three days before oral arguments saying this was going to be an 8-1 vote with even alito and robertsa voting in favor of upholding the mandate. kind of strange because three days later, four days later, after the oral arguments hit, toobin was back on saying, health care is dead, obamacare is dead, kennedy is going to go -- >> listen, you have two different memories of what happened. every single network, just about everyone except for one person who's not on this network who i saw, said that the individual mandate would be struck down, joel. i don't remember jeffrey toobin coming on cnn -- maybe i'm wrong, i didn't see all of it. i do not remember jeffrey toobin or anyone else coming on cnn saying that the individual man date will be upheld. most people were startled and surprised that it actually was. >> no, don, actually you're confusing the preoral arguments phase with the post-oral arguments. prior to the oral arguments in march the media were pretty much unanimous this was likely going to be upheld and anthony kennedy was going to be the swing vote -- >> i get you, i understand
swing vote, you had your own cnn analyst jeffrey toobin two or three days before oral arguments saying this was going to be an 8-1 vote with even alito and robertsa voting in favor of upholding the mandate. kind of strange because three days later, four days later, after the oral arguments hit, toobin was back on saying, health care is dead, obamacare is dead, kennedy is going to go -- >> listen, you have two different memories of what happened. every single network, just about everyone...
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. >> jeffrey, what do you stand on this? >> of course i agree with robert on this.ate finance and he has lived this space so well. it is a difficult juggling act to walk that high wire between managing the spirit and internal expectations and also having confidential discussions on the outside without doing what hb did one ceo back by of course simon you pointed out earlier today is destroying morale and confusing markets and customers by putting for sale signs everywhere on units you might keep. that said, this is a ceo who i think is an honest and probably technically competent person who has gotten ahead of himself consistently in the taking charge process and i say probably technically competent. his claim to fame before coming here was chief technology officers at siemens at the exact same that kleinfeld when head of siemens was throwing cell phones into water glasses complaining they couldn't keep up. they wound up selling at the time that thostenhines was head of technology and he came here and not as a success, and it is a shame that they have gone to someon
. >> jeffrey, what do you stand on this? >> of course i agree with robert on this.ate finance and he has lived this space so well. it is a difficult juggling act to walk that high wire between managing the spirit and internal expectations and also having confidential discussions on the outside without doing what hb did one ceo back by of course simon you pointed out earlier today is destroying morale and confusing markets and customers by putting for sale signs everywhere on units...
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morning, washington post reporter robert mcartny will join us live for more analysis into this ongoing investigation. he's been writing about it for some time. >>> jeffrey thompson, the man suspected of funding the shadow chain for mayor gray has left the accounting firm he founded. thompson's home and office were raided in march as part of this investigation. he has not yet been charged. >>> to the campaign trail now, president obama hits the road in virginia today, while rumors swirl this morning that mitt romney is getting close to picking his running mate. fox's doug luzader joins us live with more on the potential republican vice presidential nominee. doug, good morning. >> reporter: allison, good morning. not a whole lot of information to go on here, but we work with what we have. there's one report who says former secretary of state condoleezza rice is a front runner. she said she was not interested in the job, but there she is at the top of the report that says she could be a nominee. >> it's not me. >> reporter: she moved to the heights of washington's foreign policy -- >> she is skilled in foreign policy, interesting. a lot of people like her.
morning, washington post reporter robert mcartny will join us live for more analysis into this ongoing investigation. he's been writing about it for some time. >>> jeffrey thompson, the man suspected of funding the shadow chain for mayor gray has left the accounting firm he founded. thompson's home and office were raided in march as part of this investigation. he has not yet been charged. >>> to the campaign trail now, president obama hits the road in virginia today, while...