with jeffrey robinson's former un judge and the 1st president of his war crimes caught in sierra leone. and he's joining us live from london. very good to have you with us. i thank you very much. indeed. can you explain to us what the, the coverage is from the geneva convention when it comes to cases like this? well, let's close prisoners of war. that means. ready court fighting for and not be opposing army must be treated humanely. they cannot be executed unless they committed, specifically crime. now these 2 english were merely members of the ukrainian army, and this court, legitimate court in which russia is responsible because the lord i have sent them to death and they will be more judges in a month who can confirm that sentence. and if they do, if they execute, that will be a, so a war crime for which the judges and the prosecutors will be guilty. and of course, in breaking law or in, but here sure. a prize in the concrete in the world. this is an act of murder and nice judges by passing the day would be a deal and the banking murder. so if they ever venture to a country with bri