smith of the africa global health and health human rights subcommittee. >> gentlemen, thank you very much for your testimony and leadership. "new york times" reporter jeffrey gentlemen wrote a piece roots of bitterness in a region, sudan's future, "new york times," january 15th. he talks about how most people in aub yea are armed to the teeth. my question first is, where have all those ak-47s gone that we believe the chinese gost helped to facilitate well in excess of 100,000? are they there? are we perhaps being a little bit too optimistic about the prospects of a peaceful transition here? or what? >> i think congressman if you're dealing with sudan you have to have a fault of optimism to be able to be deal with such a difficult issue. soy have no fault there. but as you know, if it's human rights first, if it's a small arms commission of the u.n., the documentation of chai na's small arms has been irrefutable, and we can assume there have been credible reports of the flow of those arms down into regions near the border, directed by cartoom, it's a matter of great concern. i think, as congressman payne said, we were together in aub yea when the smoke was