now to talk about apple's future, gene munster, senior research analyst at piper jaffrey, and jeffrey sonnenfeld, professor of management at yale university's graduate school of business. thank you for both joining us. >> good evening, susie. >> susie: gene, let me start with you. certainly steve jobs is a tough act to follow, but can tim cook keep the momentum going at apple. >> yes, and i think the reasons that the road maps aren't in place for the next three-- are in place for the next three to five years, we know about the iphone and i pad but the television that steve jobs has worked on, should carry the company for the next several years. so we continue to look very good about the next five years for apple. >> susie: you know, jeff, it's an understatement to say that steve jobs brought creativity and innovation to apple. he did that and so much more. but are those characteristics institutionalized in the company and the culture so that the company does succeed even without steve jobs? >> it's hard. because steve jobs himself, of course, represented the creative edge, that sense of pav rick