snowden can't come home this is the reason why i couldn't go to trial this is the reason why jeffrey sterling the other cia whistleblower was convicted because there is no affirmative defense we are prohibited by law from going into court and saying i did it but i did it for this reason and in the case of daniel hale this was a war crime he did it because he was exposing a war crime he's not allowed to say that and so he really doesn't have any chance of acquittal the best thing to do for daniel as it was for me as it was for so many others here charged under the espionage act is to take a deal and to hope for the lightest possible sentence the decision that was made early on even before joe biden was inaugurated to pursue the appeal against julian his son it was that decision that made it clear that joe biden was going to pursue national security leaks just like barack obama did and just like donald trump did after him. it is often international as we gear up for monday's historic anniversary of the 1st human operate above the planet there in our team we continue our special coverage for you

they decide whether or not to drop the remaining counts well you know i got 2 and a half years jeffrey sterling got 3 and a half years terry allbery got 2 years poor reality winner got 5 and a quarter years what are we looking at with daniel hale it seems to me that they really want to crucify this poor guy. points john and if you know the intercepts of jamie scahill who by all accounts was the journalist at the heart of hell story petition the bitit ministration to drop the charges that entailed the top administration originally charged hale was there hope in the whistleblower community that you happen to be a part of that the bite administration would do things differently than what we've seen from the previous 3 administrations. you know there was but it was very very brief and the reason that it ended is because we saw early on after the election but even before the inauguration that joe biden didn't want to do anything at all to help julian assange and if he wasn't going to walk away from that terrible case against julian assange which the united states has already lost and is having to ap

snowden can't come home this is the reason why i couldn't go to trial this is the reason why jeffrey sterling the other cia whistleblower was convicted because there is no affirmative defense we are prohibited by law from going into court and saying i did it but i did it for this reason and in in the case of daniel hale this was a war crime he did it because he was exposing a war crime he's not allowed to say that and so he really doesn't have any chance of acquittal the best thing to do for daniel as it was for me as it was for so many others here charged under the espionage act is to take a deal and to hope for the lightest possible sentence you mention that he was reporting a war crime what are your thoughts on the u.s. drone warfare program in general are there any problems with how it's being utilized. you know i i'm a stickler for the rules i believe that we're we're a nation of laws and we have to abide by those laws whether we like them or not if we don't like them we should change them go through the process and change them if congress has not declared war on a country we don't have