jeffrey toobin joins me. is this an american tragedy? >>> then the presidential pope, ralph reed hosts a college of evangelicals and every republican hopeful will be there to kiss his ring. who will get his blessing? >> now to the jobless number, any way you look at them, they're not pretty help how will the white house respond and what will the recovery really look like? joining us from the white house is the money man, austin goolsbee. austen, thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me again, eliot. >> i know the president was out there again saying this was a bump in the road. i don't want to be too harsh, but it seems like more than a bump in the road. it seems like there's an argument that we're dipping into a double-dip recession. what will change in the near-term to bring job creation back? >> well, hold on. i don't think, you know, the one month is not a trend. one month ago we came in 100,000 above expectations and if you remember, i said don't ever make too much out of any one-month report. this month we're 100,000

jeffrey toobin joins me. is this an american tragedy? >>> then the presidential pope, ralph reed hosts a college of evangelicals and every republican hopeful will be there to kiss his ring. who will get his blessing? >> now to the jobless number, any way you look at them, they're not pretty help how will the white house respond and what will the recovery really look like? joining us from the white house is the money man, austin goolsbee. austen, thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me again, eliot. >> i know the president was out there again saying this was a bump in the road. i don't want to beharsh, but it seems like more than a bump in the road. it seems like there's an argument that we're dipping into a double-dip recession. what will change in the near-term to bring job creation back? >> well, hold on. i don't think, you know, the one month is not a trend. one month ago we came in 100,000 above expectations and if you remember, i said don't ever make too much out of any one-month report. this month we're 100,000 or so

our analyst jeffrey toobin joins us by phone from new york.t thinks arguments that are happening here. should this judge have recused himself in this case? >> the argument is not that judge walker should have recused himself because he's gay. the argument is that because he is gay and has had a long-term partner and could become eligible to get mar i had, he has such a personal stake in the outcome that he should have recused himself. it's because of the nature of the relationship that he's had. >> that's right, because he has a strong interest in the outcome. it would have determined whether or not he could wed his own partner one day. is there any precedence for this? any legitimacy that they're finding in the argument that those folks are making? >> i think it's a very, very unlikely that he -- that judge walker will be found to have done anything improper. judges are human beings, they often have broad societal interests that are at stake in any case before them. you know, many african-american judges have sat on cases involving civil righ

and with jeffrey toobin. >>> also tonight, did you see what happened in the courtroom today in the casey anthony trial? she's accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter. her lawyers say her little girl drowned accidentally and they covered it up. either way, casey anthony has been spinning a we believe of lies to cops and her family. she made up a story about a nanny that never existed. we'll show you conversations where the lies flow freely. casey anthony is claiming her father sexually abused her and her lying is a reaction to that abuse. the videos shown in court seem to show their relationship was a good one. >> i miss you, sweetie. >> i know that. i miss you, too. >> i wish i could have been a better dad and better grandfather, you know? >> you've been a great dad and you've been the best grandfather. don't for a second think otherwise. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 absolutely, i mean, these financial services companies tdd# 1-800-345-2550 are still talking about retirement tdd# 1-800-345-2550 like it's some kind of dream. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's either this magic number i'm supposed to reac

jeffrey toobin is in the house. >>> and you've got to see this intervi interview. >> i don't care if it's a minute after michael's death. >> well, two years after the death of his son, i talked to joe jackson about what people have been saying about him. we talk about his relationship with michael, and other issues as well. >>> i'm don lemon at the cnn headquarters in atlanta. let's get you caught up right now. >>> we'll start real quickly with the headlines before we move on. a lot of people are celebrating in new york today. last night the state became the latest, and the most populist to legalize same-sex marriage. governor andrew cuomo wasted no time signing the bill into law. set to take effect in 30 days. six states and the district of columbia now recognize the right of gay couples to marry. >>> in casey anthony's trial it came to an abrupt halt today. the judge said a legal issue has come up. he did not say what it was. the trial is now set to resume monday morning. much more on the week's dramatic testimony is coming up at 10:00 p.m. eastern. we're going to go in-depth right

. >>> coming up, jeffrey toobin is here to talk politics. what is going on there? >> sarah palin is here in new york having dinner tonight with donald trump. they're discussing their shared psychological condition. attention-getting deficit disorder. and later tonight, we may hear her gettysburg tweet. >> i'd never heard that psychological interpretation. attention -- >> attention-getting deficit disorder. >> can't wait for the conversation. and you'll be joined by rick lazio. but first a quick look at sarah palin out on the town here in new york tonight. >> what do you think of donald trump donating to democrats? >> i think i'll go change his mind right now and make sure that he's contributing to constitutional conservatives. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible. we could'

> this was john edwards idea from the beginning. >> i want to bring in our cnn legal analyst, jeffrey toobinhief political analyst, gloria, for insight on this case. first for you, jeffrey, explain for us in very simple terms, what are the charges here? what is this criminal indictment about? >> it's not a charge he had an affair, it's not a charge that he lied about fathering this baby. the charge is very specific. what happened here was two wealthy supporters, bunny melon, a philanthropist in virginia and fred barron, a trial lawyer in texas, paid almost a million dollars to rielle hunter, to andrew young, the aide, to keep them quiet, to take care of them while the campaign was going on. the charge is that those funds were in a legan illegal campaig contribution. you're only allowed to give candidates for president $2300 in a primary. this million dollars nearly was an illegal campaign contribution john edwards solicited, facilitated, encouraged. that's the charge against him. >> does edwards automatically go to trial? what is the next step? >> well, he'll be arraigned shortly. certainly,

jeffrey toobin looks at the law versus a license to thrill. >> and, hey, welcome to america. >>> then -- is there a doctor in the house? maybe not when obama care gets going. edie hill asks the person who used to be the president's physician. are there enough doctors to go around. now for tonight's "american issue." he shocked america in 2004, jim mcgreevey was governor of new jersey when he grabbed headlines for being the highest ranking elected official in the country to announce he was gay. remember this? >> and so my truth is that i am a gay american. and i am blessed to live in the greatest nation with the tradition of civil liberties, the greatest tradition of civil liberties in the world and a country which provides so much to its people. >> mcgreevey resigned the office later that year following revelations of a gay affair. former governor jim mcgreevey joins me now. jim, thank you for being here. >> thanks, eliot. >> seven years later. attitudes have fundamentally shifted. could you have predicted that we would get to this tipping point? >> no. i could not have predicted. nei

so joining me now from new york to talk about this, cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. thanks for joining us, jeff. >> hi, sanjay. >> so jeff, we've talked about this before, but what happened in this hearing here? did the judges sound like they would support the law or throw it out like the judge in the first trial? >> well, you know, this one was a little hard to tell. just to put this all in a little perspective, there have been a lot of these cases all over the country, kicking around the federal courts. so far, three district court judges have upheld the law, said it's constitutional, two district court judges have said it's unconstitutional, including the one in florida. >> right. >> and these cases are starting to move through the appeals process. this summer there are four federal appeal courts hearing these appeals. one was heard about a month ago. the one was this week in atlanta. the first one that was heard, sounded like the judges were pretty sympathetic to the constitutionality of the law. this one i think it was more ambiguous. but it's always hard to rea

cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin joins me now. can the prison make that call? is the prison is allowed to give him medication if he's a danger to himself or others. where it gets complicated is, is the prison allowed to give him medication to make him fit for trial? because at the moment, the judges say he's not fit for trial. and that question, they haven't quite reached it yet, but it's a very hard and interesting question. >> so it sounds like what will also be argued is what type of medication would these prison officials want to give him. >> well, usually judges stay out of the question of what kind of medication. judges recognize they're not doctors and they're not going to run through a list and say this drug but not this drug. what they are going to do is basically say whether someone can be medicated at all. and judges tend to defer to prison authorities on these issues for just that reason, because they are not doctors and they don't know exactly -- they don't know how to prescribe medici medicine. the problem comes when a prisoner resists, as it appe

with me now is evan wolfson executive director for of freedom to marry.org and senior analyst jeffrey toobinrey, answer what that state senator was saying about why change -- he's stuck on the word. he's stuck on changing the definition of the word "marriage". >> i would say that marriage is not defined by who's denied it. when gay people are able to share in the freedom to marry because they are in love, because they have made a commitment in life and they want a commitment in law, that doesn't change marriage. it doesn't take anything away from anyone else. it doesn't use up marriage. marriage is there for all of us to share. host of us who have made a commitment. and what gay people want is to be able to participate in that legal commitment. and the other thing i would say is that some states have tried to come up with alternative, parallel, other mechanisms. civil union partnership. and right across the river in new jersey where they have civil union, the official state commission that was appointed by the legislature and the governor to study how is civil union working reported that it

cnn's senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin is on the phone from new york to give us insight into same-sexes and states rights. a complicated issue, jeffrey. first of all we saw the republican candidates overwhelmingly arguing in the debate monday night. despite their positions on individual states' rights there has to be uniformity on same-sex marriage, a federal standard or a definition. take a listen to what they said. >> i support a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman. i was the co-author of the state in minnesota. >> we should have one law in the country with respect to marriage. >> i do support a constitutional amendment on marriage between a man and a woman but i would not be going into this state to overturn their state law. >> jeff, do they have a point? does there need to be uniformity on this basic right? >> well, historically, there has not been federal uniformity on marriage. in fact, marriage has been one of the subjects that is very much reserved to the state in terms of how it's administered. issues like what age you can get married, how

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to dig deeper on this and whether or not it's really feasible, jeffrey toobin, cnn senior legal analystunusual as a country, we're a very young country, but we have a very old constitution. and political system about if you position about it. our constitution, our lil system is older than every european cup. >> we have the oldest written constitution of any democracy in the world. and it's only been amended 27 times. and it stood us in very good said, but i think it is not sack crow sang and it is a good idea to think about what shouldn't have been done in the first place and how you can improve it p aboutidea to think about what shouldn't have been done in the first place and how you can improve it p about. >> the german constitution, i've read once, is very similar to the american one, but more modern, it doesn't have some of the kings oig. for example people point out that the second amendment is a grammatical mess. whatever -- >> nearly incomprehensible as a sense tensz, yes. >> so are this things that constitutional scholars look at and say these have been problems for 222 year sth

. >> joe johns went down to north carolina for edwards' court hearing today and joins us with jeffrey toobinjeff, let's talk about the words that edwards used. why were you saying that's so important. >> because this is what's called a specific intent crime. this is a crime that you're only guilty of if you intend to violate the law. if you are speeding, the cop doesn't care if you didn't intend to speed, you're guilty. but in this, you have to intend to violate the campaign laws by getting this money to rielle hunter through these two very rich people. and he's saying look, i knew they were giving her the money, but i wasn't thinking about campaign finance laws, i was thinking about protecting my wife from this embarrassing situation. that's what he's saying. >> that's why the intention is so important? >> correct. >> if anyone says he's very wealthy, why wouldn't he have just given her money directly? >> if you believe that part of this whole ruse was to keep the fact of the child from his wife, she would notice $900,000 was missing. >> joe, were you in the courtroom today? >> reporter: i

candy crowley joins me now with jessica yellin and jeffrey toobin. jeff, obviously the point of a grand jury is to keep things secret. on the other hand, the indications that this case is coming to a head tomorrow are coming from a source that cnn feels comfortable relying on. how strong is the case against john edwards and what are they looking at? >> this is a paradoxical situation. here he is, his wife is dying, he has this affair. they construct this ridiculous story that andrew young, the aide, is the father. and they get all this money together to give to rielle hunter. that's a very ugly, unappealing story. what is unclear is whether it's a crime. because this is potentially a violation of the federal election act, and the federal election laws are rarely used in criminal prosecutions. and whether this money was a campaign contribution or simply a ruse to take -- to deceive his wife, having nothing to do with this campaign, that's the factual and legal question that if there's a trial, will be probably the central issue in the case. >> so he c

jeffrey toobin is our legal analyst. he's joining us.ence at all, any suspicion at all that any criminal activity, any criminal wrongdoing occurred here other than a lot of stupid activity? >> none at all that i'm aware of. i mean, as you say, this is stupid. it is embarrassing. it is not surprisingly leading to the end of his political career, but in terms of criminal behavior or even the possibility of any sort of a civil lawsuit, i don't see it. i think he will be able to try to start his life anew, just in another line of work. >> the investigation from the house ethics committee that nancy pelosi asked for, now that he's resigning from congress, do you know what happens with that investigation? is it over with, or do the members continue? >> no, it ends, as war as i'm aware. the ethics committee only has jurisdiction over sitting members of congress. once he leaves the investigation is over, and even if that investigation were to go forward, the kind of remedies they can suggest are sanctions like a censure or removal from the house

. >> dana bash you saw in that interview joins me now with jeffrey toobin.estions has he not answered? >> all the ones you just heard me asking. what is so weird about this is it's so plausible that his twitter account was hacked, it really is. the experts we talked to, it's very easy to do. so the fact that he just won't answer some basic questions just even say point blank that it wasn't him is very weird. >> so he has not said that's not a picture of my private parts? >> no. earlier today he came out and was very gracious and answered reporters questions earlier in the day, as well. he was asked, is the picture you? and he gave a similar answer to the clip you just saw. >> and he wouldn't say whether he was following her on twitter, right? >> no, she -- the woman we're talking about, this 21-year-old college student, who was the alleged recipient of this tweet, she actually said in her statement to the "new york daily news" that anthony wiener was following her on twitter. so that's one of the questions we asked, is that true, and if so, why would you fol

this and the legalities of amending the constitution and whether or not it's really feasible, jeffrey toobinnalyst. jeff, we're unusual as a country. we're a very young country, but we have a very old constitution and political system if you think about it. our constitution, our political system is older than every european country. >> we have the oldest written constitution of any democracy in the world. and it's only been amended 27 times. and it stood us in very good staid. but i think, you know, it is not sacrosanct. it is a good idea to think about what shouldn't have been done in the first place and how you can improve it. >> when you look at -- i mean the german constitution apparently, i've read it once, is very similar to the american one but it's sort of more modern, more streamlined. it doesn't have some of the kinks. you know, for example, people point out that the second amendment is a grammatical mess, whatever you think of the right to bear arms. >> nearly incomprehensible as a sentence, yes. >> so are there things that constitutional scholars look at and say these have been p

jeffrey toobin says it's a tough case for the government to win. in the trial of casey anthony. another round of videotapes showing casey anthony's repeated and blatant lies. jailhouse conversations with her family, showing them to you including a detailed story about a nanny that never existed. all of that and more at the top of the hour. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels. and fewer pills for a day free of pain. fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to ...get in the way. not anymore. ink introduces jot. a real time expense app that lets you track and categorize expenses on the go. so you can get back to the business you love. jot, the latest innovation from chas

and jeffrey toobin.hite house defense boil down to here. >> reporter: it boils to one word, hostile it is. the white house argument is that action by u.s. troops in libya is not part of any sustained fighting. there's not exchange of any gunfire with hostile forces. there are no troops on the ground. that they're there are no casualties and no chance of this really escalating into anything broader than that. and also the argument that u.s. is really in a supporting role here as part of the overall nato mission. so the bottom line for the white house they believe is that since u.s. troops do not have boots on the ground, therefore they are on pretty solid legal ground. >> then there's this bipartisan suit filed today to the courts to basically take the administration to court. there are some direct claims made in that suit that are refuted tonight by the white house. >> reporter: well, that's right. there's been a lot of criticism from up on capitol hill that the white house has not really kept them sort

last week, just a caveat at the beginning, in three different states in three different days, jeffrey toobinthat cbs woman, i forget her name. >> great. so this is not a massive onslaught, is it? >> no basically the entire mainstream media. it was about andrew breitbart. >> it wasn't, though. that's the point. >> yes, it was. >> no, it wasn't. most of it was, well, hang on -- >> chris matthews, joan walsh and some other guy. and matthews just asks about -- >> i'm only talking cnn. >> that's not the point. instead of talking about weiner, you attack the deliverer of the news. >> it is natural to be suspicious of mr. breitbart. >> really? i wasn't suspicious of that guy chris lee. i demand to know who put that photo out. same thing with mark foley. do i even know who put out the mark foley story? >> do you ever calm down? >> you're taking a long question when i'm trying to give an answer. >> is it not understandable that people might be at least skeptical given his track record? >> i don't know who exposed mark sanford, a conservative's reaction is not to say, who put that out? let's attack th

eleanor holmes norton, the first woman to lead the equal employment opportunity and senior analyst jeffrey toobinoman norton, i'd like to start with you. you fought for equal rights all of your career. in your view, is this a setback for women? >> it's a setback, particularly since this is a court intent upon breaking new reactionary ground. remember the ledbetter case, the case that congress had to overturn because they gave a similar procedural interpretation of equal pay for equal work. now, here, they're saying that there's not enough commonality. in my judgment, that's clearly not the case. >> commonality, just to be clear, you're talking about the glue that sort of holds the lawsuit together as to the 1 million or so people who had actually filed to try to come into a class-action lawsuit? >> precisely, but let me tell you what there is commonality in. walmart had a centralized personnel system, and supervisors had unbridled discretion to hire and promote. as a result of that discretion, look at what you have in walmart. 14% of the managers are women. 80% of the floor line supervisors and w

. >> joe johnson joins us with jeffrey toobin. you know john edwards.d, your sense of the man today? >> i have to tell you, john, i walked into the courtroom expecting to see john edwards. he was there sitting down in front surrounded by his lawyers. the first thing i was struck by and has sort of stayed with me is here is a guy who was one of the last men standing in the 2008 run for the democratic nomination, remember him from the south carolina primary debates that probably the last time i got a good look at him. today he was stand go up again only this time before a judge with some very serious charges before him and still it looks very much like the same guy but basically a whole lot of trouble, in large part because of his own doing, this illicit if you will extra marital affair with rielle hunter that led to a child. essentially arguing, hey, my relationship with her is something i wanted to try to keep secret and the government saying that he got hundreds of thousands of dollars from two contributors, philanthropist buddy mellon and fred baron a

joining me now senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and -- evan -- >> whether or not it passes, why notlet it come up to a vote? >> we're very hopeful that there will be a vote. we're calling on the senate to move for a vote because we feel like we've made the case. thousands and thousands of new yorkers, democrats as well as republicans, business leaders as well as labor on unions, professional athletes, as well as individual people and their families and loved ones have contacted their legislators, have called the senators, have visited the senators and have taken out. actually 58% of new yorkers support the measure. >> do you think you have enough support among the legislators? >> we are very helpful that if the senate brings it to a vote, which i hope will happen very soon, that we will have a happy day for new york. >> jeff, as up you look at this, why is it taking so long to come to a vote one way or another? >> i think this is a hard vote for a lot of the republicans the republican party institutionally and in new york state has been opposed to same-sex marriage. look at the deba

this law will impact the on going debate over the rights of gays and leians in this country, jeffrey toobin of new yorker magazine and adam nagourney of "the new york times" i mad to have all of them he. give me the legal fix. >> it is up to eh state at thisoint, and many states, i believe it is 29; is that right, have constitutiol amendments saying that they can not. >> new yorker, we are like big picture guys. now, 29 states, and it really looks like the proposition eight case will end one way or anotr with california having same-sex marriage, so soon it seems likely there are going to be approximately a quarter of the people in the country living in a state with same-sex marriage. the question i have is, when will the supreme court arrest the issue? because i don't ink they are in any rush to do it. i think at the end of the day they will say that same-sex marriage is a constitional right,ou can't have one kind of marriage for straight people and one kind of nonmarriage for gay people. but i don't think they are in any rush to do that and i think it will maybe be five years or maybe be t

joining me now is jeffrey toobin of the "new yorker" magazine and cnn, from washington, d.c. mark halperin of "time" magazine and pete williams of nbc news. i'm pleased to have all of them here on this program. pete, let me begin with you. give us the legal case that's being made against john eards. >> well, it all comes down to what was the money for. itertainly is no illega, it's certainly unwise but not illegal under federal law to have a mistress or try to cover up that fact. or even to ask other people for money to do it. the problem according to the government is that this was tied centrally to edwards campaign. the justice departmt sa today that the whole point of his campaign was to present himself as a miliman that if this had become public it would have been devastating it would have destroyed his campaign. and so that the money was raised to rescue the campaign. the keep the campaign from having to deal with this problem. to have to divert resources, to have to answer the charges and all the money the government says was to keep his mistress on ice. it was paid for

in addition to the last three attempts, jeffrey toobin, what would be different this time around?>. >> the state is different, the country is different. the polls have changed on this issue. in the early and mid-90s, the polls said two to one americans were against same sex marriage. nationally, same sex marriage now ekes out a slight majority, but in new york state, there is a substantial majority in favor of same sex marriage. politicians ultimately respond to the will of the voters and the voters have changed. now, that doesn't mean same sex marriage is going to change. as someone who's followed the new york legislature for many years, it's a mysterious place, and strange things happen. clearly, public opinion is what's driving the difference. >> as dana played out. there are concerns on one side about the language and possible unintended consequences. specifically concerns of the bill that would redefine the legal parameters of the marriage. how would the language need to change to perhaps placate those folks who don't want this to happen for religious reasons? >> i think this

senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin joins us on the phone to tell us more about the ruling. are you surprised the court came down on the side of free expression? >> reporter: not really. this court is divided on many issues, but on the issue of free speech, it has been pretty united in its very protective approach to anything regarding freedom of speech. this was a 7-2. it wasn't very close. the court said this wasn't a hard case. this was a case about what they characterized as art. people may not like it, but this was a kind of art and in the most entertaining part of justice scalia's opinion, he said a lot of this is very violent and we don't want to get in the censorship of it. >> what about the makeup of this justice system? >> they are togethermore often than you think. 40% of the supreme court's decisions every year are unanimous. what makes this case unusual is the two discenters were clarence thomas who is the most conservative justice and steve bryor. the broad middle of the court found this case certainly one that was really much more about censorship than it was

let's bring in our senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. all nine supreme court justices agreed that the size of the case was simply too big under current class action rules, but they split 5-4 on whether or not walmart had a policy of discriminating against women. were you surprised by these rules? >> you know, i was in the courtroom for the day this case was argued, and there was not one justice asking questions who displayed much sympathy for this case going forward. too big. this case was too big. there was not enough in common among all these plaintiffs, and so it's not a surprise that even the liberal justices agreed that the case had to be thrown out. >> do you expect much smaller class action lawsuits to go forward as kate just said, maybe dozens of women or a few hundred women? >> well, certainly that's possible, but the economics of the lawsuit are very important here. i mean, it's very expensive for plaintiff lawyers to gather the information necessary for these lawsuits, and one reason this case was so big is that the payoff pot

joining us now is our senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin.by this decision by the supreme court? >> not at all. one of the things about this particular court is as we know they are very divided, liberals and conservatives about a lot of issues, but free speech is not one of them. this is a court where free speech claims often win, and in the oral argument, in all the leadup to this case, it really seemed likely that they were going to strike down this law. justice scalia's opinion was actually very funny and very wise, and he talked about all the literature, children's literature, "hansel and gettel," grimms fairy tales and the iliad and odyssey very violent for their day. they didn't have the technology to be this violent. >> what are the consequences from this decision? >> well, i think the consequences, the status quo pretty much remains intact. the games have the ratings that they do. store owners are obligated to keep them from the kids for whom it's inappropriate, but the law is not going to be use toned force it. i mean, there's really