jeffs could get a life sentence. is uncertain. gary, as we were talking about earlier, has been following the story for years. and jeffs is determined to lead his church, the flds, from prison. jeffs used thousands of dollars worth of phone cards to stay in touch with church members. his followers are spread across several states in america. in towns like colorado city, arizona, even local law enforcement is loyal to jeffs and his sect. here's gary tuchman, once again. >> i've never seen it like this before. i've been here for seven years. and i've never seen things so unstable. so, lawless. i consider this the most lawless town in the country. >> reporter: sam brower is an investigator and writer, who has been following the polygamist sect closely for a decade. and has written a book on the flds, called "prophet's prey." could you compare them to the taliban? >> this community is run taliban-style. and that's really all the flds church is, in my opinion. is an organized crime family. >> reporter: breakaways say that

tell me what warren jeffs means to you? >> i don't know what you mean by that. >> how important is he to you? >> everything. >> he's everything to you. >> uh-huh. >> and there's still a great deal of allegiance to the leader who's long been in jail. but that may be changing. just ahead, a man who was once one of warren jeffs' most loyal followers now tells a very different story. >> he in his own wards admitted to what he is. he said he's a wicked man and he confessed to doing some very terrible things. coffee doesn't have vitamins... unless you want it to. new splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweetener with b vitamins, the first and only one to help support a healthy metabolism. three smart new ways to sweeten. same great taste. new splenda® essentials™. >>> even though he's just been found guilty by a texas injure of sexually assault two children, there seems little doubt that warren jeffs is in charge of his break-away sect. while he was in trial awaiting jail he did one thing above all else. he was on the phone. in this

brent jeffs testified his uncle removed him from sunday school to violate him while warren jeffs' brothericted this week on two counts of sexual assault of a minominor. he faces possible life in prison although prosecutors say it could be several days before the penalty phase is over. i'm don lemon. now back to "cnn presents." >>> we came to broward county a year ago to do an investigation on pill mills. now we're back and a. year later and there's still rows and rows of pain clinics. we're seeing more babies being born addicted to drugs. >> more people died last year from prescription drug overdoses than car accidents. >> our children are dying. and it's all young people. it's all the young people. >> what age were you when you started using pills? >> i was 18. that's me, my dad, my brother. that's me and my mom before drugs. i used to be so pristine and proper in all my pictures, you know. i cared about my hair, my makeup. i don't give a [ bleep ] anymore. >> reporter: brie's as diction to oxycodone is killing her. >> there's five of the oxycodone and a bar and a half of xanax. >> repor

warren jeffs' attorney declined to comment. the people who live on this ranch in one of the most isolated parts of texas are not only loyal to warren jeffs, they're the most loyal of the loyal. you're only invited to live here if the prophet himself approves. and despite his long stay in jails in utah, arizona and texas, jail time amounted to more than five years so far, that's what warren jeffs is to people who believe in him -- a leader to be followed and obeyed. he's pled not guilty to the most recent charges against him of sexual assault of a child and bigamy. officials of the mainstream mormon church reject jeffs and his practices. but within the flds, there seem to be more people supporting warren jeffs than those trying to unseat him. how long that will last is anyone's guess, but from his jail cell here in texas, there's little doubt jeffs is still controlling the destiny of the nation's largest group of believers in polygamy. just listen to this young believer in arizona. tell me what warren jeffs means to you. >> i do

jeffs, do you think you can win this case? >> reporter: spiritual leader, warren jeffs, has been jailed now for nearly five years an faces trial on three charges including aggravated sexual assault on a child, charges to which he's pled not guilty. the people of the flds are convinced that there is nobody on earth closer to god than warren jeffs. they believe that jeffs, even behind bars, is the mouthpiece of god, that words he utters are divinely inspired. law enforcement authorities have long been worried what would happen if jeffs told his followers to do something violent and dangerous. >> i've never seen it like this before. i've been here for seven years and i've never seen things so unstable and so lawless. i consider this the most lawless town in the country. >> reporter: sam brower is a private investigator and writer who's been following the polygamous sect closely for nearly a decade and who's written a book about the flds called "prophet's prey." do you think there are comparisons to be made like to the taliban or

jeffs sermonizing them.one point he tells them to take their clothes off, then gives them instructions, very graphic instructions on how they're to shave their bodies, and telling them that when they come to him they should shower in advance, provided that he might call them to service. so as gary alluded, it really is more of a sex tape than anything else. and i think it certainly had the most emotional impact today. >> and flora, forrout audio was the clincher of the trial. how so? >> well, you know, it's so, so disturbing on so many levels. and what's really disturbing for me is now to think that there are these 12 girls that have been introduced to this perverse sexual deviant and think that this what is god has ordered. that their lives should be like. and my big worry right now is what kind of help are these girls going to get? they're still trapped inside this cult. they aren't getting help. and that's one of my big worries right now. >> flora, you were inside this and you saw it from the inside. what

jeffs is the leader of the group that believes multiple wives are the key to heaven. jeffs was charged with having sex with girls as young as 12 years old and he says they are his wives. jeffs acted as his own attorney. the judge gave him 30 minutes to make a closing argument today. jeff stood silent nearly all of that time, speaking only once during those 30 minutes to say, i am peace.

jeff said recorded allegedly featuring jeffs and a twelve year old girl for the end of the tape after what sounds like heavy and jeffs is heard saying in the name of jesus christ amen to which the twelve year old echoed on that prosecution then rested its case and the attention now turns to jeffs to mount a defense all on his own because he fired his entire legal team on friday when he decided to defend himself by sermonizing to the jury and justifying the religious tenets of his church so what is it exactly that motivates jeffs and other polygamist mormons and what could this trial mean for their community here does offer some insight his son jesus bhattacharya writer and u.s. correspondent for esquire u.k. and the author of the book secrets and wives the hidden world of mormon polygamy sanjeev welcome thanks for having me tom that's a very good thanks for joining us from our los angeles studio more than a weekend what do you make of this trial so far well you know today was kind of disturbing with the with the sex tape but you know going to say we're in this morning jeffs has been.

>> reporter: warren jeffs' attorney declined to comment.he people who live on this ranch and one of the most isolated parts of texas, are not only loyal to warren jeffs, they're the most loyal of the loyal. you're only invited to live here if the prophet himself approves. and it is spite his long stay in jails in utah, arizona, and texas, jail time amounts to more than five years so far, that's what warren jeffs is to people who believe in him, a leader to be followed and obeyed, despite his conviction this week on two charges of sexual assault. he will also soon stand trial on a bigomy charge to which he's pled not guilty. officials of the mainstream mormon church reject jeffs and his practices. but within the flds, there seems to be more people supporting warren jeffs than those trying to unseat him. how long that will last is anyone's guess. warren jeffs was his own attorney during his texas trial, where prosecutors played audiotapes of his sexual encounters with underage girls. even so, he is still controlling the destiny of his polygam

tell me what warren jeffs means to you? >> i don't know what you mean by that. >> how important is he to you? >> everything. >> he's everything to you. >> uh-huh. >> and there's still a great deal of allegiance to the leader who's long been in jail. but that may be changing. just ahead, a man who was once one of warren jeffs' most loyal followers now tells a very different story. >> he in his own wards admitted to what he is. he said he's a wicked man and he confessed to doing some very terrible things. vrrooom...vrrroooomm vroom vrrooom vrrroooomm vrrroooomm vrroom vrrrooomm vrrroooooooommmmmm mmmm mm. [ female announcer ] granola thins. something deliciously different from nature valley. thin squares of crispy granola layered with creamy peanut butter or rich dark chocolate flavor. lightly toasted for a delicate crunch. 90 calories. 100% natural. and nature...approves. ♪ granola thins. from nature valley. nature at its most delicious. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen. i just didn't listen until i almost lost my life

jeffs apparently having sex.y impactful, i think, for all of us in the courtroom today. >> and gary, he called as his first witness a member of the flds, but he still hasn't addressed the allegations against him, right? >> that's right, anderson. we didn't know he would call a witness. then all of a sudden he call one of his followers, a guy we know. it basically felt like an flds sunday school session, the book of mormon was brought in as their first piece of evidence. they basically read the book of more mon to each other. warren jeffs defense is not that he didn't have this sex. his defense is this is a violation of his freedom of religion. and he got his witness, the member of his church, to say that yes, throughout history mormons religion has been violated. but then, when the prosecution cross-examined this man, they said to him, do you believe warren jeffs is a prophet? he said yes. do you believe warren jeffs talks to god? he said yes. then they said, but do you have sex with 15-year-old girls? and the ma

today is day eight of the warren jeffs trial in texas jeff is the leader of the morgan mormon polygamist sect known as the fundamentalist church of jesus christ of latter day saints and he's charged with sexually assaulting two under aged girls by raping he called it marien a twelve year old and impregnating a fifteen year old today prosecutors played for jurors a twenty one minute sex tape jack jepson recorded allegedly featuring jeffs and the twelve year old girl toward the end of the tape after what sounds like heavy and jeffs is heard saying in the name of jesus christ to which the twelve year old echoed. the prosecution and rested its case in the attention now turns to jeffs to mount a defense all on his own because he fired his entire legal team on friday when he decided to defend himself by sermonizing to the jury and justifying the religious tenets of his church so what is it exactly that motivates jeffs and other polygamist moments and what could this trial mean for their community here does offer some insight as sanjeev bhattacharya writer and us correspondent for esquire u.k.

>> willie jessup used to be one of warren jeffs' right-hand men until he realized jeffs was molestingeffs' followers are warned not to pay attention to the news, and if they speak to reporters -- >> they will be instantaneously removed can from the church. they would lose any privileges they had. >> were you aware he was even on trial last week? >> can i ask you a quick question? can i ask you a quick question, ma'am? do you know what happened in that trial? >> i don't know anything about it. >> you don't want to know anything about it? how come? >> because i don't want to. >> if i told you, would that offend you? the jury found him guilty. >> i don't want to know anything about him. >> how come you don't, if you don't mind me asking? >> i know the information i need to know. >> it's always difficult to talk to members of the lds on camera, not because they're particularly unfriendly, it's because they're paranoid, they're downright scared. i've later talked to members that were excommunicated. >> do you believe this is a persecution of religion? >> you have to go back and analyze who

jeffs apparently having sex.pactful i think for all of us in the courtroom today. >> and gary, he called it his first witness a member of the flds. he didn't -- he still hasn't addressed the allegations against hill, right? >> that's right, anderson. we didn't know he would call and all of a sudden he called one of his followers, a guy that we know and it basically felt like an flds sunday school session. the book of mormon was brought in as the first piece of evidence and basically read the book of mormon to each other and warren jeffs defense is that he didn't have sex but the defense is this is a violation of his freedom of religion and he got a member of his church to say that yes, throughout history, mormons religion has been vie late, but then when the prosecution cross-examined this man they said do you believe warren jeffs is a prophet? >> yes. do you believe warren jeffs talks to god, and he said yes, and he said do you have sex with 15-year-old girls and the man had a lawyer with him, talked to his lawy

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here's warren jeffs in his own words. >> there's more. listen to how jeffs tries to explain to women and girls why his sexual needs have to be met. >> this guy's a complete hypocrite on top of everything else because what he was preaching to the men in his congregation was completely different than the message he was giving to these women who he wanted to have sex with. portions not yet released of these tapes are far worse, recorded what many in the courtroom say sounded like jeffs having sex with at least one girl, elissa wall is a former member of jeffs sect, a former member of the church, along with carolyn jessop, author of two books "escape" and "triumph" one of these girls was your stepdaughter? >> that's correct, anderson. >> when you hear the tapes, what do you think? >> it's heartbreaking. it's absolutely heartbreaking. warren had so much power over these young girls' lives. they grew up from the time they were 3 or 4 years old hearing his voice being played in the home all the time. he released upwards of 1,000 tapes of trainin

willy jessup was one of jeffs's right-hand men until he realized jeffs was molesting children.wers are warned not to pay attention to news and if they speak to reporters -- >> they would be excommunicated from the church. they would remove all of the privileges of the community. >> reporter: were you aware he was on trial last week? were you aware of that? miss, can i ask you a quick question? miss? can i ask you a quick question? can i ask you a quick question, ma'am? do you know what happened in that trial? >> i don't know anything about it. >> reporter: you don't want to know anything about it? how come? >> i don't want to. >> reporter: if i told you, would that offend you? the jury found him guilty. >> i don't want to know anything about it. >> reporter: how come you don't. >> i know the information i need to know. >> reporter: it's never been easy talking to flds members on camera. not that they are unfriendly. they're paranoid, downright scared. over the years i have interviewed several members who were later excommunicated. this follower named emil made the decision to t

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willie jessup used to be one of warren jeffs' right-hand men until jessup realized jeffs was molestingers are warned not to pay attention to the news, and if they speak to reporters -- >> they will be instantaneously excommunicated from the church. they would remove all the privileges of the community. >> reporter: were you aware he was even on trial last week? were you aware of that? miss, can i ask you a quick question? can i ask you a quick question, ma'am? do you know what happened in that trial? >> i don't know anything about it. >> reporter: you don't want to know anything about it? how come? >> just don't want to. >> reporter: if i told you would that owe fend you? the jury found him guilty. >> i don't want to know anything about him. >> reporter: how come you don't if you don't mind me asking? >> i know the information i need to know. >> reporter: it's always difficult to talk to members of the lds on camera, not because they're particularly unfriendly, it's because they're paranoid, they're downright scared. i've later talked to members that were excommunicated. but this flds

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warren jeffs, that is the normal behavior for warren jeffs and, you know, he stood there in silence prayingght that maybe he had convinced the jury that he should be let go. the saying in the alds they used to tell us all the time, perfect obedience creates perfect peace. and so i think that he expected that jury to obey his commands and let him go. >> who takes over for him now? is there someone who does take over for him? >> there is. there is his brother is standing in the wings waiting to take up the reins and, you know, this is not a practice that is going to go away. i want the american people to understand that there are -- this is not the only polygamous group out there. and if we don't stand up and demand accountability from these groups, they then -- then it's building, it's growing, it's going to be moving into a neighborhood next to you. >> and when you talk about that accountability, flora, you think more people that prosecutors should be looking at, should be going after? >> absolutely. i go believe that the women need to be prosecuted. >> the wives of warren jeffs? >> not onl

here's warren jeffs in his own words. >> there's more.n to how jeffs tries to explain to women and girls why his sexual needs have to be met. >> this guy's a complete hypocrite on top of everything else because what he was preaching to the men in his congregation was completely different than the message he was giving to these women who he wanted to have sex with. portions not yet released of these tapes are far worse, recorded what many in the courtroom say sounded like jeffs having sex with at least one girl, elissa wall is a former member of jeffs sect, a former member of the church, along with carolyn jessop, author of two books "escape" and "triumph" one of these girls was your stepdaughter? >> that's correct, anderson. >> when you hear the tapes, what do you think? >> it's heartbreaking. it's absolutely heartbreaking. warren had so much power over these young girls' lives. they grew up from the time they were 3 or 4 years old hearing his voice being played in the home all the time. he released upwards of 1,000 tapes of training into

here's warren jeffs in his own words. >> there's more.to how jeffs tries to explain to women and girls why his sexual needs have to be met. >> this guy's a complete hypocrite on top of everything else because what he was preaching to the men in his congregation was completely different than the message he was giving to these women who he wanted to have sex with. portions not yet released of these tapes are far worse, recorded what many in the courtroom say sounded like jeffs having sex with at least one girl, elissa wall is a former member of jeffs sect, a former member of the church, along with carolyn jessop, author of two books "escape" and "triumph" one of these girls was your stepdaughter? >> that's correct, anderson. >> when you hear the tapes, what do you think? >> it's heartbreaking. it's absolutely heartbreaking. warren had so much power over these young girls' lives. they grew up from the time they were 3 or 4 years old hearing his voice being played in the home all the time. he released upwards of 1,000 tapes of training into t

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jeff and matt have been a fantastic partners in this. as far as we know, it is a new day in these efforts and really trying to work collaboratively and we hope to have all your support in doing that. [applause] >> of course, that is not to say that we are not going to fight it out in court because, of course, that is what we do. i would like to briefly introduce ross mirkarimi, who is a supervisor here in the city, and he has been a champion of many criminal justice issues, including prisoner reentry. i also want to thank and acknowledge debra atherton. thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: it is nice to see everybody. jeff is generous. i was not expecting to be up here. i know you have had a productive day. i think that the public defender's summit is something not to be missed and a template for the rest of california and probably the nation to follow. i am proud of our public defender. i am proud of our criminal justice partners because over the last four years, we have seen a great amount of innovation. jeff and i started the city's first

take it away, jeff. >> yes, yes, where in the world is jeff ranieri?in campbell down here on the front lawn of the historic ainsly house. just seconds ago i came over, were you startled? >> not at all, you're quite handsome. >> i guess the gym is working for me. so are you having fun out here? >> yeah, we're having a great time. we come out every week with friends and family. we all get out on the dance floor and it's a great way to break up the week. >> we know there's one more week of music in the park. what's your name and where are you from? >> maggie from san jose. >> you came all the way from san jose to campbell. not too far to go. thank you so much. you guys have a good time. now we're going to come over here. we've had this table set up here and we're joined by the mayor tonight, jason baker here of campbell. jason, this is a phenomenal atmosphere here tonight. who knew that campbell had all this great stuff? >> people wonder what campbell has to offer. we have music in the park every thursday throughout the summer. we've got one more coming u

do we know how jeffs reacted in the courtroom?er: you know, this is the interesting part about this. remember, he wanted to represent himself. he essentially acted as his own defense attorney inside the courtroom. he really had no reaction. he simply, this type of testimony, this kind of evidence he argued to the court that this shouldn't have been used in court because it should have been protected, should have had a religious protection. obviously that went nowhere with this jury. a defense attorney, perhaps a seasoned defense attorney would have at least tried to create some doubt. it's interesting as you hear the tapes, sexual explicit words are never used, never anyone totally describing what's going on in the situation. warren jeffs uses this loaded vocabulary. he talks about the sessions as atonement issues. as you heard him in the tape, talking about the women coming over to assist him. obviously loaded vocabulary. it's nothing that tells you exactly what's going on in there. >> i remember the jury deliberated for all of f

ok jeff in toronto we forward to the break you said you want to jump in so just go right ahead. right well let's not also forget what has driven our involvement in the region and that is that when you produce thirty percent of world oil supply you tend to catch a lot of attention from the largest world oil consumers and i think some of the skepticism around what's happening in libya is why are we intervening in libya a country that produces one point six million barrels a day and not intervening in other places like yemen and bahrain that doesn't have that kind of oil supply and i guess you know one thing we've got to remember is where we have intervened in the middle east and i say the west stand simply to increase energy supply typically what's happened is that we've ended up getting less energy supply and any time there's been regime change and it doesn't really matter what the ology of the regime change is whether it's the replacement of the shah by the iranian revolution whether it's deposing saddam hussein the net result has been that that country has produced less oil and

willie jess up used to be one of warren jeffs right hand men until he realized jeffs was molesting childrened not to pay attention to the news. if they speak to reporters. >> they would be instantaneously, excommunicated from the church. they would remove the privileges of the community. >> i wonder if you were aware he was on trial last week. were you aware of that? can i ask you a quick question, miss? miss, can i ask you a quick question? can i ask you a quick question, ma'am? do you know what happened in that trial? >> i don't know anything about it. >> you don't -- how come? >> don't want to. >> i mean, if i told you, would that offend you? the jury found him guilty. >> i just don't want to know anything about it. >> how come you don't? >> i know the information i need to know. >> it's never been easy talking to flds members on camera. not because they're particularly unfriendly. because they're paranoid, down right scared. over the years, i've interviewed several members who were later excommunicated. >> this flds follower made the decision to talk to me. >> persecution of religion. >

look at that, jeff. he's using the wet sand and the water there to almost anchor him down so he doesn't get blown over. 70-mile-per-hour winds. this is category 1, and people think just a category 1. look at that. there's nothing oh about it. >> it would be hard to tell, take a look at this picture, where is he at? it's hard to tell because the wind-whipped waves and the sand and everything combining together. it's unbelievable. >> yeah. i can't believe what he's doing there for us. let's hope he finds safety as soon as he needs to, though. a lot of people watching would say he should have got there already. >> we have the radar up right now, and what you see is we're tracking some really heavy rainfall as we saw in the picture, but some continuous rainfall right across nags head right where mike is at this point. they were under tornado watch earlier, and, in fact, in columbia, nearby columbia over here we did hear about two homes that were destroyed and also some minor injuries come inning fr from a to

>> i think it's going to be difficult not only for warren jeffs but any attorney. this in effect is a statutory rape case, and that's sort of a document intensive case. because a 14-year-old and a 12-year-old can't consent to having sexual intercourse. i think it's going to be difficult. his defense seems to be that this is a religious prosecution and a persecution, but i don't think that that will carry the day certainly because the judge has already responded that there's no claim of privilege, regardless of religion with communications relevant to the sexual assault of a child. his defense, while he may believe, there's something to it, i don't think there's anything to it at all. >> we'll follow that tomorrow. meantime, we have to talk about a story that got a lot of us talking today. it has to do with the fact that it's been more than 20 years sincere yal killer ted bundy was executed in florida. he confessed to murdering 30 young women before he was sent to the electric chair and police across the country suspected he had many more victims than that. now a vi