keep in mind, when jeh johnson says it's a crisis, i hope people now believe us. they didn't believe us. democrats didn't believe us a month ago or two months ago. what's happening at the border is a humanitarian crisis and a security crisis. i'm very glad to see that jeh johnson is admitting we were right and people coming across this border this month, that's a crisis. why are we talking about closing the border? because not for spite and not to try and undo what's happening, but to simply say, look, we need the people from the ports of entry to go out and patrol in the desert where we don't have any wall. we hate to say we told you so but we told you so. we need border security and we're going to do the best we can with what we have. the democrats won't give us any additional money to do this, additional people, and they won't change the law that's acting as this giant magnet for people from south and central america to come into this country. faced with those limitations the president will do everything he can. >> the mexican foreign minister has responded to

i think jeh johnson actually speaking up is pivotal.in media will be more inclined to respect him, to listen to him. a lot of folks on the left might turn around and say wait, hold on a second. this is one of our guys so to speak that is talking now about how this is a serious crisis. is he going to be on cavuto live. pete: jeh johnson, don't miss that to see what he says. tom homan also said hey, nancy pelosi, hey, chuck schumer, have you been to the border? will you go to the border? will you see what's actually happening? i think that's a very serious question. our top leaders should be asking. jedediah: have to answer for that. ed: hear a lot of the democratic contenders for the white house in 2020 talking about illegal immigration the way president trump does. that's why he thinks it will be a pivotal issue like it was again in 2016. one of the democrats still on the sidelines is joe biden, the former vice president. a lot of people wondering why hasn't he gotten in yet? there has been a number of issues. there have been questions

great to jeh johnson for speaking out.voring the obama administration, you know, badgering president trump, will they look at this and say wait a second, it's harder for us to take this stand when you have someone from our team saying.it pete: there aren't the facilities for it so people are being released even earlier in the hope so they show up for a hearing that many never show up for. it just compounds the problem. ed: so democrats have spent a long time not listening to the facts that president trump has presented about the crisis at the border. they've also ignored the president tweeting, talking publicly for months and months now about problems that the f.b.i., the justice department and all the rest in terms of how the entire mueller investigation started, what went on in terms of abuses of power. suddenly now that parts of the mueller report have trickled out and we found out there was no collusion conspiracy and that they are not going to pursue obstruction of justice, ruud was on justice with judge jeannine last

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i actually listened to jeh johnson and heard it a different way. president trump and his supporters mean crisis. i think he's talking about the humanitarian aspect of these border crossings and the fact that our foreign policy has created a crisis in these countries that is forcing people to flee their homes and run for their lives. so i think that you know, as democrats we need to focus on the humanitarian effects on these people and their children, right? we've had children die in our custody and president trump blamed on her father for not giving the child water which is not correct. because she died of a bacterial infection. as citizens we need to put pressure on our elected officials to solve this humanitarian crisis in a serious way because these are people's lives. these are children's liveses. regardless how you feel about immigration policy in the broad sense, i think as human beings we have to look at these people as people and treat them accordingly. >> to what's been said, charlie, that the united states has really been the proponent of

i would agree with former secretary jeh johnson on this.n ports of entry to shift resources to where they're needed most. that would be a temporary solution in this problem. to be frank, it wouldn't really solve it. the main problem that we're having at the border right now is that large groups of individuals, migrants are crossing the border and claiming asylum on american soil which they are allowed to do. then they go into a process, a legal system that's overwhelmed. it doesn't have enough immigration judges. it doesn't have enough asylum officers. they languish in our system. they are not treated -- they are not treated properly. it's not fair to them and to americans. i think that's the main issue that we need to be solving. i think it's something this administration has asked repeatedly is for congress to step in and try to solve the problem, putting additional resources at the border, making sure we have enough immigration judges to process these claims and make sure that people who deserve asylum have asylum and are able to enter i

he needs to go after them. >> jeh johnson, obama's secretary said it's a crisis. is it a crisis?s also talking about the fact that you have, you know, children and families now, you know, the overcrowding. you have people being held in cages under over passes and just that is a crisis. there's a humanitarian crisis in addition to the fact we're just not solving the problem. now we know this is how many years in a row do we know? this is the time of year when we've seen this increase in the migrations because of the temperature and the weather and the heat of the summer. this was predictable. when you also have the president talking about cutting aid, and you talked about this to mic -- to keep people, what is the plan? it's sort of like their health care. they're sort of throwing out the red meat for the base without having a plan and i don't think anybody thinks that deporting children without their parents back to their home countries is a good idea. >> let me ask you, amanda. it's fair to say you're skeptical of president trump's leadership. you don't like obamacare. you want

jeh johnson who was homeland security security secretary for president obama, and tom bossert who was the adviser on homeland security for president trump. because we now have seen and, in fact, here in the united states, there have been three times more deaths by white supremacist extremism than by islamic extremism in the last years. the question is are we doing enough to stop it? can we control it? how do you deal with the fact this is being weaponized over social media? big questions for all of us. >> george, thank you very much. your show on sunday morning is one of my favorite parts of the weekend. >> thank you. >> always a pleasure to see you. i want to remind everybody, george has a big show this morning in the aftermath of the attacks. he'll speak with the top homeland security officials for presidents obama and trump, jeh johnson and tom bossert. plus the powerhouse round table takes on the latest in the 2020 race. that's all coming up on "this week." thanks again, george. see you later. >>> another story we're following. a u.s. navy veteran that has been detained in iran si

jeh johnson, the former homeland security secretary for president obama, and tom bossert who served as homeland security adviser for president trump. let me begin with you, mr. johnson. you heard the statistics that pierre led out there. are we equipped to deal with this threat? >> george, first of all, thanks for having me. we are equipped as long as we stay focused in my judgment. efforts against this kind of violent extremism begin with good law enforcement, good investigative techniques, but we need to also rededicate ourselves to identifying violent extremism at local levels through community organizations and the like, but then as you noted at the outset, this is an issue that also includes social media. social media now, there are very, very few barriers to entry and frankly standards for exit, and so it's incumbent upon social media providers, internet service providers to be vigilant when it comes to hate speech, content that violates their very own terms of service. i think there is a role for our leaders to play in raising the level of civil dialogue in our country and lower

i think you saw an interview with jay -- with jeh johnson on another network this week that said 4,000 people per day, which is what we had -- >> it's absolutely a humanitarian crisis. i don't question that for one second, and i never had. >> congress won't give us any money to fix it. they won't change the law to fix it, so we're going do the best with what we have, and if that means pulling people off the ports of entry to put them out on the border where there's no wall, we will absolutely do that. >> let me ask you, because the state department told cnn yesterday that the u.s., the trump administration, is going to cut off aid to the northern triangle countries, the central american countries, el salvador, guatemala, honduras. your own border experts in your own administration say that investing in those countries is working. for instance, in el salvador, and migration from el salvador has gone down as well. isn't this also self-defeating? taking away aid from those countries will ultimately make the migration crisis worse? >> listen, there are a lot of good ways to solve this prob

jeh johnson also former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama joyce vance. nistration, but obviously illegal immigration fell sharply under barack obama. it spiked under george w. bush. it fell sharply under barack obama and because of that we moved to the lowest illegal border crossings in half a century. what did you all do to drive illegal immigration down while also -- well, while also embracing the best of what american immigration is supposed to be? >> so joe and mika, thanks for having me. barack obama once said this stuff would be really interesting if i wasn't caught in the middle of it. and i owned this problem for three years, and with a little perspective of two years out of office, the answers -- there are answers to this problem and we made -- the u.s. government made a multiyear investment going back to the year 2000. illegal migration is a fraction of what it used to be. the high was fy 2000 and of late in the obama years and in the first trump year it is a fraction of what it used to be. 3, 400,000 a year because first and foremost, an improv

look, jeh johnson was on another network earlier today. >> yes, msnbc on "morning joe," he was good.. what he said was a bad day when he was security chief was 1,000 per day. it's now approaching 4,000 per day. he said i don't know what the heck that would look like. he said contrary to some on the hard left, actually many on the hard left who said whenever trump talked about the border it was some fantasy made-up crisis, jeh johnson said, no, we actually do have a crisis. >> it's who the numbers are. both are right. the flow is more than they have ever seen because they figured out how to game the system. people are desperate to want to come in. they know if you come in illegally, you get caught and claim asylum and you jump the line. but the quality of the people, the president calls them the brown menace, but he says they're terrorists, gang bangers, rapists, murderers. those numbers are not what these men and women protecting us are worried about. >> i agree. >> it's mostly families and kids. and the president can't mention it because he's not selling compassion on this issue. he

when jeh johnson says it is a crisis, i hope you believe. a lot of networks did. they did not believe us a month ago or two months ago when we said what was happening at the border was a humanitarian crisis. that johnson is admitting that we were right and that the hundred thousand people -- it across the border crisis. why are we talking about closing the border? to undo what, not is happening, but to say that we need the people to go out and patrol in the desert where we do not have any wall. we told you so. we need border security and we will do the best that we can with what we have. they will not give us additional people and they will not change the law that is acting as a giant magnet. limitations, the president will do everything that he can, if closing the ports of entry mean that, that is what he intends to do. >> the first thing we need to do in this administration, the author of the zero-tolerance policy removing over 2800 toddlers, infants and children from their parents so that they could be returned. we need to meet the humanitarian needs at the bor

it's beyond an emergency, a crisis, as jeh johnson says, so i'm going to do it.sistant u.s. attorney, can he do it? >> yeah, neil, he can. the president has article 2 constitutional authority to protect the national security of the united states, including to secure the border. there's a lot that the president has the power to do in an emergency type situation as opposed to using an emergency as a pretext to legislate in any kind of a permanent way, but if the question is, does the president have the power to deal with a mass of non-americans coming in over the border, whether it's an armed invasion or, you know, the functional equivalent without arms? sure he does. neil: all right, so it's one thing to declare an emergency and even je. had johnson parted company with the president there, a crisis at the border. it's another level to close that border. i guess, it would depend on the sites and exact border crossings he would close. i think the president intimated the whole works, but what do you think of that? >> well, to me it's the -- it's a lot -- if the presi

. >> when jeh johnson says it is a crosses -- crisis, i hope people believe it. it. didn't believe democrats did not believe us a month ago or two months ago. we said it was a crisis, humanitarian crisis, security crisis. i am glad to see jeh johnson admitting that we were right and 100 thousand people coming across the border is not a made up number by the way. despite the fact that many democrats think it is. that is a crisis. why are we talking about closing the border? try and undoor what is happening. to simply say we need the people from the points of entry to go out in the desert where we don't have any law. we hate to say we told you so but we told you so. we need border security. we will do the best we had -- can with what we have. they won't give us any additional money, people, they will not change the law that is acting as this giant magnet for people from south and central america to come into the country. faced with those limitations, the president will do everything he can. if closing the ports of entry mean that, that is what he intends to do. dothe f

but at least we have agreement now there is crise at southern border, i notice jeh johnson on your networkys ago talking about the fact this is a crisis. hard to resolve, it is more complicated. the difficult we closing the border it could hurt american businesses. rick: there is a historical precedence for that. president's nixon and reagan closed borders over drug issues. goal is being to put more pressure on mexico. but yes there is an economic cost. >> there is, chambe chamber of e estimates a daily trade across border of 1.7 billion dollars that under lines how important it is. when president nixon did this, he was not able to sustain the closure for a long period of time because there was political and economic pressure. rick: let our viewers know we're looking at images of president leaving air force one, they just landed from palm beach, florida, they are back at joint base andrews, he will travel from there, back to the white house. nile, the president has threatened to cut billions of funding to central america, el salvador, guatemala and hondurus. if they don't do something to s

i saw jeh johnson on television, he said when he had the job, this same job of protecting our southerna lot. he is calling this a crisis. he is certainly no president trump fan. >> i think it's a crisis. when it comes to democrats who don't want to do anything on the border, don't want to give the president a wall, i don't think that works in their favor. i think for the president to come out, for a lot of the staff that we're seeing to show how bad it is, it does work in his favor. when you look at public opinion, border security, is important. i think people disagree what that looks like. charles: right. >> what i'm curious to see when he makes this type of declaration he will shut down the border, i'm interested to see how people respond to that. i think he wins on border security. i'm not sure taking that strong action if that will be seen as favorably. charles: beverly, i saw one report saying that suburban housewives actually wanted a wall. he started to rebound with them on that issue. security is important for a lot of people and particularly suburban people. do you go to bever

. >> jim himes and south molten will weigh in on that and jeh johnson will join the conversation.in the conversation >>> welcome back, everybody. it's march 1st so like 20 days till spring or so. because of that, we have -- >> that's the occasion. >> that's the occasion. mike allen, co-founder of axios is on set with us. >> i saw my shadow and -- >> exactly. i tried to think of something to mark the occasion. talk to us about the "1 big thing today." >> it's democrats' post-mueller plan. it's very possible that robert mueller has a grand finale up his sleeve, whether it's sealed indictments. we don't know what he knows. remember everything that michael cohen said on camera, robert mueller has long know. but democrats are not leaving it to mueller. whatever happens with that report, they're cranking up. we started to see it yesterday, an investigation, six committees at least. they plan public hearings with hostile, reluctant witnesses. look at the checklist that they now have. the campaign, the foundation, the inauguration, the presidency, conflicts of interest, money laundering,

jeh johnson said it yesterday. obama's former homeland security.e've seen it, it's got to be done. we have to take care of this problem. kristin: you think it's a real emergency, but you would not support president trump closing the border entirely. secretary nielsen suggested perhaps not closing all of the border, but perhaps some ports of entry. what do you think about that? >> i think that's possible. the devil is in the details on this, but i think there has got to be a cost to mexico. right now, mexico initially said they were going to cut a deal with us to allow people seeking asylum to actually stay in mexico until their court date. that hasn't come to fruition. they started out with a good relationship between the new president and president trump only to see the president of mexico back away. so there's got to be punishment for mexico, i agree. i don't know if shutting down the entire border is actually going to have the kind of impact we see versus the impact on our economy. if we can do targeted and it works, i'm in. i'm in. whatever nee

we now have jeh johnson who was the dhs secretary under barack obama saying it's crisis.r patrol deputy who is hispanic say it's an absolute crisis. they don't have the capacity. they don't have the manpower, the infrastructure, they can't handle it right now they are projecting over 100,000 illegal entries this month alone. that is over a 10-year high. and if congress doesn't do anything about it, the president has to act. >> juan: well, that's a good point. i think our asylum laws are such that people say that you can apply for asylum in the united states in terms of fleeing violence or even in terms of saying that you are politically oppressed, that you have a right to be in the united states. secondly, of course, they are the laws that say that people coming from central america as opposed to mexico are to be treated differently, dana. so, from what i'm hearing from both kennedy and jesse is, hey, america can solve this problem if we did something about our laws. >> dana: absolutely. no question you could actually do a lot. and it probably -- they could probably work

we have a statement from jeh johnson and jim clapper, an official statement saying that russia is interfering at the time. >> martha: that is stuff that we know. >> juan: how are you going to stop it? you can make an effort and try to get republicans -- the republicans in the form of mitch mcconnell said that would put some kind of onus on our candidate and were not doing it. >> jesse: not in charge of the intelligence apparatus. >> martha: greg, your thoughts. >> greg: i don't have many thoughts. i'm just happy. i had a natural buzz from this vindication. i think it's interesting that the people who pushed the story the most warrant us. we always -- it's the commentators in the opinion people who get the bad rap that we are like not dealing in facts. we are dealing in conversation, that's our job. the analysts, the brennans, the people we put on pedestals who pushed this. not us chuckle heads. we're just having a conversation but everybody, carl bernsteins of the world, the john brennans of the world, the investigative reporters that lied to us. those are the people that caused this problem.

jeh johnson, the obama-era secretary, said there was a huge crisis on the border. he said he got a report in the morning, there was a thousand detentions, it was a bad day. 4,000 is what we're dealing with now, he says our system is being overrun, we're not able to deal with it. >> i heard him say also, in terms of addressing the root of the problem, these people's home countries, all these people are trying to do is survive. >> absolutely. but every candidate for president including beto o'rourke is going to have to address that from a policy at some point, not just a platitude. >> let me pivot the conversation a little bit and talk about what we are hearing from beto o'rourke today and where he's campaigning today, keith, because he's going to three different locations there in texas. he started his day, it was near the mexico border. then he traveled to the historically black texas southern university in houston where he's about to speak and then later today he'll end in the shadow of the capitol in austin. do you think texas is at play for the democrats this ye

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we now have jeh johnson who was the dhs secretary under barack obama saying it's crisis.toms and border patrol deputy who is hispanic say it's an absolute crisis. they don't have the capacity. they don't have the manpower, the infrastructure, they can't handle it right now they are projecting over 100,000 illegal entries this month alone. that is over a 10-year high. and if congress doesn't do anything about it, the president has to act. >> juan: well, that's a good point. i think our asylum laws are such that people say that you can apply for asylum in the united states in terms of fleeing violence or even in terms of saying that you are politically oppressed, that you have a right to be in the united states. secondly, of course, they are the laws that say that people coming from central america as opposed to mexico are to be treated differently, dana. so, from what i'm hearing from both kennedy and jesse is, hey, america can solve this problem if we did something about our laws. >> dana: absolutely. no question you could actually do a lot. and it probably -- they could

. >> when jeh johnson says it is a crisis, i hope people now believe us. did.folks in the media they did not believe us. democrats did not believe us a month ago or too much ago when we said what was happening at the border was a crisis, a humanitarian crisis, a security crisis. i'm very glad to see jeh johnson is admitting that we were right and that 100,000 people coming across the border this month, that is not a made-up number by the way, despite the fact that many democrats think it is, that is a crisis. why are we talking about closing the border? try andspite and not to undo what is happening, but to sickly say, look, we need people to patrol the desert where we do not have any wall. we hate to say we told you so, but we told you so. we need border security and are going to do the best we can with what we have. the democrats will not give us additional money to do this or additional people. importantly, they will not change the law that is acting as this giant magnet for people from south and central america to come into this country. faced with tho

don't take just president trump's words for this, former president obama's secretary jeh johnson saids a crisis at the border. i think we can take all of the evidence we have with regard to what we see and hear at the border as time to take action. this is a clear message to mexico. it is time for them to also help to secure the border. >> scott, let's start with just assessing the problem. do you believe there's a crisis at the southern border, a problem that must be solved? >> if it is a crisis at the border, donald trump is the one that drives that narrative and his policies drive that narrative. remember, he is treating every immigrant that comes in illegally as a criminal and detaining them, high schoolious mexico. if you can't stop the caravans of those seeking asylum, how does he expect mexico to stop them? his policies are driving lack of resources, whether you have the immigrants coming into the country illegally, but he wants to build a wall, get 8 to 10 billion to do that. why not put those resources into hiring more border agents. why not put those resources into technolog

. >>> former obama homeland security secretary jeh johnson will appear on "this week" to talk about themism in the u.s. and abroad and the trump administration's response. you can watch "this week with george stephanopoulos" at 8:00 here on abc7. >>> new developments in the presidential race. brave winds. that's the slogan for democratic senator kirsten gillibrand, who's officially announced her run for the presidency. >> our anthem asks a question, forcing every generation to make a choice -- will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> let's answer for ours. it asks, will brave win? >> the new york senator is the 14th official democrat running for president. she has been one of the most forceful critics of the trump administration. senator kirsten gillibrand's first major speech as a candidate will take place outside of the trump international hotel in new york city next sunday. >>> well, for the first time since launching his presidential campaign, vermont senator bernie sanders will visit california this week. his first stop will be

let's both take a listen to former homeland security secretary jeh johnson on what's happening with theo reach 100,000 right now. that's a crisis not only in central america, poverty and violence, but it also overwhelms our border security officials and their ability to deal with it, and it overwhelms can communities on the border, on the mexican side and the u.s. side. >> the president's approach here is saying that mexico is doing nothing and is threatening to close the border as soon as this week. if you were to be president, what would you do right now to stop the crisis? >> i wouldn't be waving the bloody shirt and trying to panic everybody. the real pros down there will tell you what we need is not necessarily more wall -- not that i'm against a secure border, but you need more drones and personnel and i go with the experts instead of just intoning the world wall and waving my arms and trying to incite people to fear. the president's decisiveness really knows no limit. he reminds me of big brother in the novel "1984." he wants everybody to be filled with hatred from people of any

former department of homeland security jeh johnson spoke out on the sunday shows about the tone in thistry. every day on this show, we are begging for decency and civility to make a feverish come back. here's what he said. >> i would have the president say to all americans, political leaders, candidates for political positions that part of our responsibility as leaders, those of with us the largest microphones have a duty to the american public to raise the level of civility in our dialogue. i think that's fundamental in this country. we to rededicate ourselves to that? >> your reaction? >> listen, he's a decent person and president trump lacks decency. one thick i have to say,s we keep waiting for him to be presidential. he's not. this is who he is. take him literally, take him seriously. people of color have been taking him seriously and the last thing i'll say, president trump is a racist. this is the feature, not the bug. >> thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. >>> up next, kids all over the world are taking to the streets to bring awareness to why they feel there is one big

jeh johnson, joyce vance, and susan del percio, thank you as well. it's been quite a week, skrjoe. >> quite a week. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks so much, mika. thanks, joe. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning, declassified! "the new york times" reports that president trump demanded a top security clearance for his son-in-law, despite objections from his own intelligence officials. a direct contradiction to what the president said, what the white house said, and what his daughter, ivanka trump said about that very security clearance. >> the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. >> hmm. >> and just the beginning. after three days of testimony, michael cohen will return to capitol hill next week, but it won't end with him, not at all. >> plainly, he laid out a road map to criminality by our president that needs to be followed. >> that map leading straight to the doors of trump organization's chief financial officer and a keep business

. >>> former obama homeland security secretary jeh johnson will appear on "this week" to talk about themism and the president's response. you can watch the full interview at 8:00 here on abc7. >>> new developments in the presidential race. brave winds. that's the slogan for democratic senator kirsten gillibrand, who has officially announced her run for the presidency. >> our anthem asks a question, forcing every generation to make a choice. will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> will brave win? >> let's answer for ours. >> the new york senator is the 14th official democrat running for president and has been one of the most forceful critics of the trump administration. senator gillibrand's first major speech as a candidate will take place outside of the trump international hotel in new york city next sunday. >>> for the first time since launching his presidential campaign, vermont senator bernie sanders will visit california this week. his first stop will be on friday for a rally in san diego, then one week from today, the senators will be here in san

i say we, jeh johnson and i put out a statement, pretty forthright one, warning of the russian interferenceelection. this is a month before the election, which unfortunately got drowned out by the "access hollywood" tape revelation. on december 29th, the administration issued a series of sanctions. 35 russian operatives, et cetera. and then on january 6th we issued our intelligence community assessment documenting the russian interference in which we had very high confidence in the evidence that we presented to then president-elect trump at trump tower. i think what gives rise -- now, i will once again emphasize that in that intelligence community assessment there was nothing about collusion because we didn't have sufficient evidence of that to include it. and i have so stated publicly, starting with march 4th of 2017 when i appeared on "meet the press." and i consistently said we didn't have the evidence at the time contemporaneously and it was my great hope that the mueller investigation would resolve that once and for all, and apparently it did. regardless of your political stripes, whet

joining me now, former secretary of the department of homeland security under president obama, jeh johnsoning recently on this need to return to decency and civility, not pointing the finger at one specific group or another. how did we get here and why? >> well, stephanie, thanks for having me on this important topic. there is, without a doubt, a rising tide of hate and violence based upon racism, bigotry, islamophobia, anti-semitism in this country and now across the planet. most recently, the dutch attack in new zealand. when i read, for example, the manifesto left by the coast guard officer who was arrested -- >> in maryland. >> -- last month, in maryland, i could not help but think that he and others who have turned to violence felt as though, in their own deranged mind that they were emboldened and encouraged to do so by some very large voices that perhaps would even condone what they're doing, in their deranged minds. and so without a doubt, there's a correlation between what these people who turn to violence feel they should do and the rhetoric that we actually see online. and so, w

if you talk to people like secretary jeh johnson, he said they did that in the prior administration.eviate people coming here. so we need to a., invest in those countries, and b., we need to be following the law here at the border. and that isn't happening. >> all right. congresswoman barragan, thank you so much for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> and next, alexandria ocasio-cortez and nancy pelosi have, of course, been at odds. >> are you offended that speaker pelosi called this the green dream? >> no, i think it is a green dream. >> and now they're joining forces. why? >>> and southern martha mcsally with an emotional revelation today. >> so, like you, i am also a military sexual assault survivor. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your healthcare business. so that if she has a heart problem & the staff needs to know, they will & they'll drop everything can you take a look at her vitals? & share the data with other specialists yeah, i'm looking at them now. & they'll drop everything hey. & take care of this baby yeah, that proced

former obama dhs secretary jeh johnson spoke with fox news and was asked about how he views the currentuation. >> by anyone's definition, by any measure, right now we have a crisis at our southern border. according to the commissioner of cdp, there were 4,000 apprehensions in one day alone this past week. and we're on pace for 100,000 apprehensions on our southern border. this month. that is by far a greater number than anything i saw on my watch in my three years as secretary of homeland security. >> in regards to president trump talking about closing the border, mexico's foreign secretary wrote on twitter mexico doesn't act based on threats. he also wrote that mexico is the best neighbor the u.s. could have. mike? mike: jeff paul live in los angeles. jeff, thanks a lot. arthel? arthel: all right we are going to bring in jason nickels professor and democratic strategist and boyd matheson republican strategist and former chief of staff to mike lee. good to have both of you here this afternoon. >> thank you, ar arthel. >> thank you, arthel. arthel: thank you, good to see you. boyd, you a

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i remember speaking to jeh johnson and he talked about push factors all the time.n a focus at all for this administration. >> no. as a lawyer, whether you're doing criminal or civil law, you always want to know why. why are people doing what they're doing? what's the motive behind it? that's providing a humanizing view of what have been now labeled invaders, the shooter in new zealand talked about the invaders. trump uses the word invasion all the time. what's also compelling is that if you're not going to actually give the information that justifies the basis for the decision that you're making, it completely erode necessary legality to what you're doing. you want to be able to say that what you're doing is a legal action as president of the united states. what's really disturbing about that press conference that we saw with donald trump is the man standing behind him is bill barr. >> not the white house counsel. >> barrill barr, who we have lod at and maybe not scrutinized him as we should have. legal action taken by donald trump in signing this national emergenc

and jeh johnson, director of homeland security, gave me his eyewitness account. in that meeting, president obama said tosecurity gave me his eyewitness account. in that meeting president obama said we know you are attacking us and coming after our trade secrets, business. practice and are military secrets pick we want you to stop the president said we don't do that that's not the policy of our country and that's that were about. president obama basically said this is who's doing it, this is where they are located, and we want you to stop. president she said we are not willing to do that. i'm told president obama said if you don't stop, you will wish you had in so many words. as you may recall dramatic drop in attacks by china. about two months before that, the congress of the united states, the president had essentially signed off on a five-nation deal with iran, for gradually lifting sanctions. at the time the iranians were unrelentingly attacking your financial services companies. especially. in july, i was a strong supporter of lifting sanctions for the openin

jeh johnson was the secretary of homeland security. he gave me an eyewitness account n. that meeting, president obama apparently said to president xi, we know you are attacking us, we know you are coming after your trade skets, our business secrets, our scientific secrets, and our military secrets and we want you to stop. president xi said no, that's not the policy of our country, not what we are about. and president obama basically said, this is who is doing it. this is where they are located and we want you to stop. president xi said thou we are not really doing that. i'm told that president obama said look, if you don't stop, you will wish you had, essentially in so many words. as you may recall, dramatic drop in attacks by china. about two months before that, the congress, the united states, the president had essentially signed off on a five-nation deal with iran that called for gradually lifting sanctions. at the time, iran and elements were unrelentingly attacking, especially or financial services companies. but in july, we gave strong support in lifting sanctions

have you had a chance to meet former dhs secretary jeh johnson? sec. nielsen: yes. >> ok. i wonder if he would also consider this a crisis because since the previous administration, that number has increased 572%. my question at what point does it become a crisis? sec. nielsen: sir, if you ask the men and women of dhs they would tell you when one migrant dies, when one person is not afforded the opportunity to efficiently claim asylum, they would tell you for a community that has been the victim of violence due to criminals that come in that flow, they would tell you any -- it just takes one. it takes one terrorist, it takes one criminal to ruin a family's life and one overdose to kill an merican. >> did you have any idea of the level of how difficult and dangerous the issue was just a few years ago before you took the position or has this been something that's been sort of a knowledge you've ascertained since you've been in the position as secretary? sec. nielsen: before becoming secretary, i did not have the opportunity to speak in detail to the men and women on the fron