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i was really taken aback during the 2016 and what we were seeing the russians doing when jeh johnson reached out to election officials and got a lot of pushback. we don't want the feds messing with the sort of thing. having said all that, i am confident that a lot has been done to make it better. if i may make a point, whenever this topic comes up, securing the voting apparatus, that is important. but that, to me, is one been of the problem. the other is intellectual security. how do you get people to question what they are seeing or reading on the internet? this is where the russians exploited our divisiveness by using social media. >> mike, let me ask you the same thing. how vulnerable do you think we are heading into 2020, whether the resistance that jim describes to federal help, whether that is changing? and also, maybe on the broader question that jim raises about the way in which our information space as a whole is contaminated. >> i agree with jim. the federal government has been much more active and the states have been more willing to accept help. i also agree that the mach

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former obama secretary jeh johnson disagrees wither him. he warned in an op-ed after this became a big talking point for castro that decriminalization would give an easy attack line to thet gop. president trump and his campaign a party attack based on the open borders. the question that i have is, is there a danger there come election time or is it this time the correct way for you guys to go againstst conventional wisdom and talk about immigration. >> i think when we start wearing about taglines instead of doing the right thing, you are in the wrong business. we hold our hand on the bible and say we are going to do for this country and when we do that, we mean everybody. you have to remember that they have committed no crime. a lot of people come over and they have the wrong documentation. they come over with the right visa and overstay. more people that come through the airports then there are coming through the southern border. the reality is, we should be calling criminals in the first place. the aliens are the green people that we read

[laughs] as jeh johnson, who was obama's former homeland security secretary, has rightly said, we arentry -- or, rather, branding at the border -- the equivalent now, of indianapolis or boston in the last fiscal year. that's a lot of people. that puts a lot of stress on our border guys. it's not fair to them or this country are of the immigrants came here legally, who got in line and waited forever and do it the right way. i'm always astounded at people who are apologists for what's going on in the border. it's unfair and it's unfair to the towns are on the border. there are so many inequities in this story. >> katie: there's also the criminal element, traffickers, human traffickers, the cartels who have benefited as a result of congress not doing anything. >> julie: i think credit needs to be given where credit is due. the fact that mexico was stepping up, this is parade was the last time we saw mexico step it up? you have people from central america and africa and the caribbean that were detained. a lot of these people were waiting for months and mexico. it was also part of the deal

jeh johnson made that decision, took a whole lot of heat. then a couple months later, everybody is like, that's probably a good move. everyone thought the federal government was going to somehow take over this issue. >> i know, i lived it. >> you know it. so we can harden those types of things. we can make sure that the most vulnerable types of machines are not used, but i can make an argument that going into one county that's going to make or break a congressional election, you go in heavy, not try to be sneaky about it, and you go around, find out, people are going to freak out. so how do you deal with that aftermath? and to be frank, i don't think we've had enough conversation on who should be pointing the lead and that dhs has a role, state department has a role, local folks have a role, media has a role. and that's how you counter disinformation in the u.s. >> so yes, i was one of those people very happy will asked those questions about the bob mueller hearing because there was a group of us watching, a lot of us with national security