insight and analysis are "wall street journal's" peggy noonan, former homeland security secretary jeh johnson, susan page from "usa today" and jake sherman, founder of "punchbowl news." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. at least congress made sure the government didn't shut down, but that's not all that didn't happen this past week. democrats with slim majorities and big differences of opinion did not manage to pass either of their two big priorities. moderate democrats wanted to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill and keep negotiating on the progressives' larger social spending wish list. that didn't happen. progressive democrats wanted more certainty on that social spending bill before voting for the infrastructure bill, and that didn't happen. here is what did happen. president biden traveled to capitol hill, told both sides their two priorities are now linked, which is just what progressives wanted to hear, and the infras

former homeland security secretary jeh johnson and "wall street journal" column northwest peggy noonanout a number.■ç let me ask you, if this is not about a number, why don't we have a deal? >> it's about a number. i think everybody is trying to figure out what the number is, what can fit inside that number and what th% can do. what you're seeing is this is a general piece of legislation. we're next to the pelosi-ologist here. she said everything she's been building up to for 30 years in public office, more than that, is in this legislation. people are taking it seriously. every side is doing■ç what they can. this is like a great example of power pole ticks. every side is doing what they can to gain as much leverage against the other side to achieve the end they're trying to chief. >> susan, speaker pelosi rarely blinks, and the progressives made her blink. >> they made her blink. when you go back to the affordable care act, a comparable big victory, the last victory where she faced seemingly really difficult odds, the liberals, the progressives■ blinked on things like the public optio

border crossing when jeh johnson left and obama left. it was at a 50-year low.t year. the last time they were that low during the trump administration, the crisis intensified and the biden administration it intensified everyone more. the biden administration does not have a grasp on this anymore than the trump administration had a grasp on this. they do not understand and just don't understand how critical this is for americans. they can say oh, the race is through this and that. no, we believe in borders. we believe in laws. we believe in order. i didn't say "law and order," don't pry. >> border out of border. it's not happening. it's humanitarian crisis and we need somebody like you and i say jeb because let's make it bipartisan to go down and bring order to a chaotic situation. it's only worse. >> i rather talk about the issue of dirty rock. >> 1.7 million this past fiscal year. here are the two big lessons i learned. number one, if you go and this is something that gets lost in the political debate where you have both sides screaming at each other. if you go

. >>> with us now is jeh johnson who served as secretary of homeland security under president obama. secretary, thanks for being here. >> thanks, ana, thanks for having me on. >> what do you see as the legacy of colin powell? >> good question. i did not know general powell well. i would run into him on occasion at events in washington. i used to joke with him that some people confused my father as him. he's being hailed as an american hero, son of jamaican immigrants and from the bronx and went to city college and rose to the highest levels of government. he was a mole rod el to me in the following respect. this is someone who was one of the finest public servants of my lifetime who happens to have been black. he was not defined by his race. people today are recalling him as the first black national security adviser, the first black chairman of the joint chiefs, the first black secretary of state. in my eyes he was an excellent dedicated public servant of bipartisan stature in washington who happens to have been black. that's how i've tried to model my open public service and public

>> well, you know, let's look at what president obama and secretary jeh johnson did. the migrants with respect, but they followed the law. that is, if they're not supposed to be here, then they sent them back. i mean, you've got to have some sort of repercussions. i know the focus is on title xlii, and i'll say this, i support title xlii. because, look, we're in the middle of the pandemic. we can't even let legal visa holders from mexico or canada come in, but they're letting all of these undocumented people come in during the middle of a pandemic. so where's the logic, where you don't let the legal visa holders from mexico and canada that spend billions of dollars on our local communities, but then people without documentation. my father was born and became a legal resident and a naturalized citizen. it took him years and years, and to see people just come in and jump the line. can i tell you that in my community, which is made up of 86 plus percent hispanic community, people don't like what they're seeing. the latinos in south texas, the latinos on the border do not

i made a film on jeh johnson, the first african-american heavyweight champion in the first decade ofhe 20th century and they share similar traits. the difference was that johnson wasn't just for himself and muhammad ali seemed to be for everybody. he seemed to want to carry everybody with him and to love everybody. it is a hard thing to talk about. this is a film about freedom. it is about courage, which is not just true in the ring but also in the stands with vietnam. it is also about love. at this guy dies five years ago the most beloved and known person on the planet. something happened from that reviled, hated person refusing the draft. that is a pretty interesting story that has nothing to do with boxing. ♪ ♪ david: so let's go back to how you became a documentary filmmaker. everybody wants to be a documentary filmmaker wants to be ken burns. i don't know who your role model was when you were starting out, but did you grow up and say, i don't want to be in equity. i don't want to be in hedge funds, important things like that? i want to be a documentary filmmaker. where did you g

the telephone a long time ago, and -- taken a long time ago and that is following what secretary jeh johnsonlosed. you don't agree with that, do you? >> of course not. of course not. i want to thank the hen and women in green and blue that do a great job, but we've got to have the right policies. we've got to address the push and the pull factors at the same time. david: henry cuellar, a brave man. a moderate democrat. this aren't that many. [laughter] good to see you, congressman. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. david: the dow just tickling that record number, 5,626. -- 35,626. anything about 36,626, you get a record if we end the day at that, and we're move being up again. we came down below it, we're coming up again so hope springs eternal. we'll be right back. ♪♪ ♪ david: many expect to see a regulatory crackdown after the gamestop meme stock frenzy, but so far we haven't seen it. charlie gasparino has been talking to insiders at the milken conference. hey, charlie. >> hey, david. a lot of great stuff happening here. i'm going to tell you a little bit about what i picked up on eric

secretary mayorkas, when jeh johnson was secretary, we had the rise of isis and the caliphate. i commend your department and the fbi and nctc for stopping probably 99% of those threats. and i worry, with the fall of afghanistan, the taliban, bagram air base being taken over, we don't have eyes on the ground, we can't see or hear anymore the threats. and we can't see russia, china, and iran as well as we could before the fall of bagram. but i want to go back to the border as mr. green was talking about. in my state, these haitians, 14,000 of them, in addition to the over a million that has come in this year, has caused a crisis, i think in your words, you said it's unsustainable, and you told border patrol agents we are going to lose, and i agree with that. i've obtained emails fromstatio warning and asking for more resources. the former prime minister asked about people coming to the board. did you see this threat coming and if so, what did you do? >> it's good to see you again, congressman, i know we worked closely for a number of years. i did not say we are going to lose, tha