. >> jehnu , deductibles and everything are going all over. the average premium increase for this year alone will be 25 percent. that is utterly unsustainable isn't it? >> it is certainly not going to be sustainable for older americans and many of them who voted for donald trump, when they find out that the plan that he is pushing makes insurance companies be able to charge them five times the amount that they charge younger americans. under obamacare that was three times. some of the stuff he >> kind of reminiscent of all of the promises obama made. he was a thousands of dollars in insurance premiums and then it turned out it twice as much. >> let's talk about the here and now. no one wants americans with health insurance to lose it. but we looking at 15 million people losing health insurance. [inaudible] >> okay jehnu, alex, good to see you both. thanks so much. talk amongst yourselves.>> you don't even need to interview them actually. >> just let them talk. >> and a longtime tradition. why one elementary school is renaming their father daug