louis. >> woodruff: jelani cobb, something the former mayor of ferguson said a few moments ago is this could happen anywhere. you have been on the streets of ferguson for the last few days. do you agree with that? >> well, i think recent history shows that not only could it happen anywhere, it has happened in several other places. there are some really terrible overlaps here, one of which is a striking irony that tracy martin, the father of trayvon martin, who was slain two years ago under circumstances i think we're all familiar with, he was scheduled to actually be in this area for an event that will take place on august 24th promoting non-violence called peace fest, and he agreed to attend this program a week before michael brown was killed. he's now coming here under very different circumstances. so we've seen all these things happen before. that notwithstanding, i think it's very troubling to say in the context of a community that's grieving, that's devastated and that certainly feels a great deal of resentment in the way in which it's being policed, that there is nothing atypical

stay with us, jelani. i don't want you to go away. i do want to bring in philip atiba goff, from ucla, and president of the center for policing he cequity in los ange. stay with us, jelani. i asked that question specifically to jelani about the extent to which protesters have training in part because these encounters with police can can be extraordinarily dangerous for civilians. now let me turn the question around and ask you, you know something at least about the st. louis county police. tell us what you know about the county police and whether or not there is reason for civilians to be concerned about their interactions with the police officers they will be encountering in these events. >> well, the first thing i want to say when they're having interactions with law enforce in the ferguson protest area in particular, they're not just dealing with st. louis county police department, they're not just dealing with ferguson police department . they're dealing with law enforcement from all over the st. louis

. >> but, jelani, what would they like to see from the attorney general?> well, for one, i think people will not be happy if there's not an indictment. they don't trust that mr. mcculloch will bring charges against the officer and talking in the community today, they don't believe there would be a vigorous prosecution even if he were to bring charges. on multiple levels there's distrust for the county prosecutor's office here. >> let me ask you about governor nixon's response. he has sort of dipped in and out of this, if you will. not visited the site of the protests. there's been a back and forth between them and county prosecutor regarding the recusal. does he have the confidence of the community? do you get a sense of where they are at as far as their thinking on the governor? >> not at all. not very much i should say. one of the most important things to note, when the governor immersed himself on the scene here and began saying they were going to call off the national guard, initially before that when he announced that captain johnson would be in charg

jelani cobb, contributor with "the new yorker." that is "all in" for this even.e're tear gas free as of 11:00 local time. the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> chris, if you sign off like that one night, you have to sign off with a tear gas check for the rest of the night you do your show. you set a benchmark for yourself, my friend. well tone. >> that's right. >> thanks, man. thanks to you at home as well for joining this hour. it is now midnight here on the east coast. and 11:00 p.m. in ferguson, missouri, where it is the tenth night of protests continuing at this hour. there is a lot of other news going on in the world tonight. we're going to get to some of that over the course of this hour on this show, but this is a live shot of downtown ferguson right now. police are not enforcing a curfew tonight. and protesters apparently are being allowed more freedom of movement to keep circulating than they were last night. more freedom of movement to keep circulating, to keep up a moving protest column. essentially in downtown.

jelani cobb, contributor with "the new yorker." that is "all in" for this even.w" starts now. >> chris, if you sign off like that one night, you have to sign off with a tear gas check for the rest of the night you do your show. you set a benchmark for yourself, my friend. well tone. >> that's right. >> thanks, man. thanks to you at home as well for joining this hour. it is now midnight here on the east coast. and 11:00 p.m. in ferguson, missouri, where it is the tenth night of protests continuing at this hour. there is a lot of other news going on in the world tonight. we're going to get to some of that over the course of this hour on this show, but this is a live shot of downtown ferguson right now. police are not enforcing a curfew tonight. and protesters apparently are being allowed more freedom of movement to keep circulating than they were last night. more freedom of movement to keep circulating, to keep up a moving

jelani cobb, raul reyes and the audience, thank you for sticking with us. i'm glad and personally proud we were able to bring you those images. this is a difficult story, of course, to cover in a lot of ways and images you have been seeing out of ferguson have been ugly ones, quite frankly. ugly ones are a reminder of so many wounds to be healed in this country. here you are seeing the pictures earlier that mother and father still mourning for their son, a 18-year-old gunned down in the street and we don't know how many times he was shot and the answers they don't have and the community doesn't have about a young black man and i can say another young black man unarmed gunned down. the person who shot and killed him right now is not under arrest but this is how our justice system works and we need to let it play out. here, we are a week and a day after the death of 18 michael brown jr. rest in peace. not quiet. but maybe we will get there. i'm t.j. holmes for msnbc. thank you so much for being with us on this sunday evening. i ran in here and took a selfie.

. >> jelani cobb, as always, thank you so much. that's all the news from ferguson, missouri.'m now throwing you back to wolf blitzer. is he in washington, d.c. in "the situation room." >> happening now, breaking news. stunning revelations in the michael brown shooting case including allegations and surveillance video of a convenience store robbery. officer identified. police release the name of the six-year veteran who shot michael brown but say he didn't know the teen was a robbery suspect. isis threat. the u.s. fears thousands of new fighters are joining the militants and we're learning of a deadly new isis assault. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." fz. >> let's get right to the breaking news. major new developments in the case capturing world attention. police in ferguson, missouri, dropped a bombshell aging the shooting victim michael brown was a suspect in a convenience store robbery, but hours later they said the officer who shot him now identified as 2-year-old darren wilson didn't know brown was a robbery suspect. all of this has critics accusing polic