joining us now, the dean of the columbia journalism school, jelani cobb, is also a staff writer at theins tonight, but i have i can't help but to notice. among your finalists, local news organizations who've done incredible work, and i'm a follower of local news. i spent many years working in local news, and i especially want to put a framework around investigative reporting, because local news is often getting cut. that's right. and investigative reporting is so incredibly important to what we do. >> it is. >> and so first i'll just. >> say i will be as excited as you to find out who wins, because even i don't know. >> oh, wow. >> okay, so you can't give us a hint. >> i can't give i can't give it away. >> if i. >> wanted to. >> but on the other side of it, you're absolutely right. >> you know, we. know that that local news is really. >> the lifeblood of. >> our profession. >> and moreover. >> like, investigative news is really important. and, you know, but. >> the stories. >> that have the biggest. >> impact are those. >> things that. happen on the. local level. that's right. the thin