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in 1854 -- by the way, i love jelani cobb's history of all this. because that was a moment of real moral clarity for american politics and the republican party was born from that split and that sense of moral clarity. and it really does feel that this is another moment like that. and you could really sense, and we met with her and a group of former republicans, met with the vice president, with congresswoman cheney and they were very aware of the symbolic significance of having this event here at the birthplace of the republican party. i have to say that don't -- i mean, i don't want to overlook the outreach of the harris campaign to liz cheney and to wavering republicans because there is a sliver of more traditional republicans who i think are soft supporters and have to ask themselves do they want four more years of donald trump? does donald trump represent the values of this party? it is actually rather extraordinary to think about what we are seeing here and the willingness of the democrats and the harris campaign to create a big tent that righ

so a friend of mine is the marvelous jelani cobb, a journalist who is now the head of the columbia journalism and of course, is very aware of what you're talking about, about the of local reporting and state reporting. and so one of the things that his on is making journalism school tuition free. so do something do something. just don't sit at home and read the national paper pay attention to the national news. worry about what hell is going on in florida unless you go florida and you vote for local school boards in florida. i so i listened recently to your interview with debbie millman on the design matters podcast. oh yeah. and i really enjoyed it. i actually have a connection with debbie was one of her grad students for several years ago. yes, i lived in new york, but this is my home here. so yeah, i loved the interview and just hearing about you and your process through creating your art and kind of how you kind of had to. become one with it and feel like this is something you knew that it was good, but, you know, getting to that space, yes, i can definitely relate to that. we didn't real

reverend al sharpton, jelani cobb, stuart stevens are back with me. come on, we will cut. oh, that's the introducer. her name is karen. she's a retired civil servant and grandma. what do you expect to hear from vice president harris? >> i think you're going to hear someone that has enthused the country but someone that has policy along with the hype of an election. you will not hear that from donald trump. kamala harris has laid out a concrete program, not only for black men but for this country. you couldn't, with any kind of forum you want to use, tell me what donald trump has said he's going do for this country. it's all grievance, all hate. it's saying, as jelani was saying, mugshots, blacks relate to me. golden shoes, i'll sell you a bible that is made in china for $3, i'll sell it to you for $60. is that good for you, black churches? it's the most insulting campaign, particularly to black men, and when barack obama raises it, he's not chas tizing us. he's telling us look at what you're seeing. don't make excuses for him. to say that the first bl

so a friend of mine is the marvelous jelani cobb and he is very aware of what you're talking about, about the crisis. so one of the things he has worked on is making journalism school tuition free. so do something. do something. don't just sit at home and read the national papers, pay attention to the national news, worry about what the hell is going on in florida. unless you go to florida and you vote for local school boards. >> hi, so, hello. i listened recently to your interview with debbie on the podcast and i enjoyed it. actually connected with debbie and was one of her students years ago. so, yeah, i really loved the interview and hearing about you and your process through creating your art and how you had to kind of become one with it. like you know it was good, but getting to that space, i can definitely relate to that. we didn't talk about your artwork, but can you talk a little bit about it tonight and where you are now through your art? >> sure, so "i just keep talking" is full of art and some of it is old art that i made an art school or since then. the rhode island school of

so, a friend of mine is the marvelous jelani cobb, a journalist who is now the head of the columbia journalism school,and he, of course, is very aware of what you're talking about about the crisis of local reporting and state reporting. and so one of the things that he has worked on is making journalism school tuition free. so do something, do something. just don't sit at home and read the national papers. pay attention to the national news, worry about what the hell is going on in florida unless you go to florida and you vote for local school boards in florida. >> hi. so, hello, i listenedrecently to your interview with debbie millman on the design matters podcast and i really enjoyed it. actually, i have a connection with debbie. one of her grad students several years ago. yes, i lived in new york, but this is my home here. so, yeah, i really loved the interview and just hearing about you and your process through creating your art and kind of how you kind of had to become one with it and feel like this is something like you knew that it was good. ou but, you know, getting to that space, i ca