>> i agree with jemele. i believe they did know.n fact, a spokesperson for the nfl pushed the lie that somehow this woman assaulted ray rice before she was hit. they said there were mitigating circumstances. now that tape has come out, a tape i'm certain they believed never would come out, now that it's come out, they suspended ray rice. this should have been done a long time ago. he should have been up for a one-year suspension or banned from the nfl from jump. but i don't believe, given the reporting i've seen today, that this is the first that the nfl or the ravens have seen of this tape, given how they characterized it back when this happened. >> dave, we had a real debate in our morning meeting today about whether or not even to show that clip. i know that you have strong feelings against really having that tape out there. isn't it the case that had that not come out, the nfl would have continued this fiction that they did all they could do in terms of punishing ray rice? >> well, then shame on us, goldie -- i'm sorry, jemele a

the question jemele, do any of them matter?eague owners, owners who are making ail fortune, a fortune that has helped to be made by roger goodell. >> and i think that's why the players are upset because roger goodle put himself in a position where he is judge and jury, so when it comes to their punishment he's the only one that decides. roger goodell however, now that he's in the cross-hairs, his future in the nfl will be determined by outside investigators and by the owners. so it's a much wider group and as you mentioned, the owners have their full support is behind roger goodell because business is booming. until dollars are being taken away, until the bottom line is sabotage, i just doubt seriously if anything is going to happen to roger goodell unless they have firm and concrete proof that he saw that video. now the next question i think and it's a fair one to be asked is let's say roger goodell is cleared in this investigation. how is he able to effectively govern after this? that's a real issue. >> it will be interesting

>> jemele, we know the ravens play tonight, interesting to see what, if anything, this he will do, anythingge this, if there will be any sort of movement, an ad in support of further domestic violence awareness programs. who knows, we will be watching and i know you will, too, thank you so much for joining us and bringing your inside and wisdom to this, okay? >> thank you. always a pleasure. >>> today, a significant day, a moment of silence from ground zero on this 9/11. we are gonna bring it to you live. right. real milk. but it won't cause me discomfort. exactly, because it's milk without the lactose. and it tastes? it's real milk! come on, would i lie about this? [ female announcer ] lactaid. 100% real milk. no discomfort. when your favorite food starts a fight fight back fast with tums. relief that neutralizes acid on contact... ...and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums! try great tasting tums chewy delights. yummy. [ male announcer ] we don't sit idle wondering how we're going to build a better truck. we get out there and walk a mile, thousands of miles, in the footsteps