jen cohen and a number of other states, we're kind of at the epicenter on the east coast to see what we can come up with. anybody from oregon? road user charges? i've come up with a new term, i call it -- i love music by the way. i call it ruck and roll. let me hear you say ruck and roll. that's good. i think we might be onto something here. if we can develop autonomous vehicles that can drive themselves all the way across the country, maybe we can figure out a way to do vehicle miles traveled. last thing i'll mention, in states that voted, most recently, new jersey, pennsylvania, wyoming have voted for rather substantial increases in user fees. mostly gas increases. somebody actually sit down and looked how the folks who voted for those increases and said how did they do in the re-elections and overwhelmingly they won. in washington people were scared in voting for these becau. we don't have ear marks anymore. i know ear marks can be abused. just to be honest with you, the idea to enable members to say i voted for an increase in users fee, as a u.s. house, senate member. we're getti