groosher is best known for creating the butler bag as well as her lifestyle brand em foured by jen grubere first is about employees who remote completely. >> my question is to best recruit and retain employees when you have no physical presence with them in the city? which they're working. >> i think this is a great question. i am in favor of employees working in the office if they can, but there are some cases where you need an employ in a different city. >> and there's some cases where when you're looking for tlenltd, you need flex tkt. we do four things. we look for proactive people, people who will lean in and reach out. you need that kind of mindset to be successful. second we invest in communication technology so there's no reasons why you can't communicate. the third is we make sure there's a travel budget. the fortunate thing is we make the communications quite affordable. we take the savings and invest in a travel budget to allow people to come to the travel office and connect with other people and build that rapport and relationship. and the fourth thing we do is make sure our o