the three year campaign to get jen o'malley dillon succeeded. succeeded -- she was, of course, joe biden's presidential campaign manager. i will never forget that it was jen o'malley dillon who gave press briefings the day after election night, saying, joe biden has this won, which i then communicated to everyone any with complete confidence. and then on saturday, when joe biden was officially called by the networks, oh my friends thought i was wicked smart because -- >> just listen to o'malley dillon, i remember that moment too, it was the opposite of what triggering is. i guess reassuring is the world. >> yeah, exactly! >> she spoke with such confidence, such normalcy, such intelligence. it was actually an incredibly important role she played in what was a chaotic moment, as someone who basically lived in the keystone state in the closing weeks of that election. i can attest to, a, how important it was to have jen o'malley dillon on the airwaves, but also b, how critical those down ballot seats are, not just to democratic control method to the