so that's not unusual, but campaign chair jen o'malley dillon said on this call that they are focused on voter contact right now. obviously, the president has made clear that he is staying in the race and the campaign it's really telling their staff what we are doing is reaching out to voters. she said at one point when you give me polls, i'm going to give you a direct voter contact. i'm also told that she said people in our country are not watching cable news just on the voter contact part reason that this is significant is because this is sort of the central argument that we are starting to see from the campaign on the reason for the president staying and they're essentially saying what is more important to us right now than what the polls are telling us is what the voters are telling us. and o'malley, dillon did talk about this a little well, that on the air earlier today, take a listen we go out and we're door-knocking just this week. >> so this isn't in the past. this is this week. did about 100,000 door knocks 76% of those people we knocked on doors and we talked to are with joe

now, as for the electoral map jen o'malley, dillon argued that they will be playing offense in all the battleground states in both that critical blue wall as well as the sunbelt, it's a bit of a shift from just two weeks ago when the campaign had argued that for president biden, the clearest path to victory was through michigan pennsylvania, and wisconsin and simply said that the sunbelt states are, we're not completely out of reach, so they really please view this realignment in the electoral map and the type of voters that harris can appeal to. and now that she's expected to lead the democratic ticket, vice president harris made her first stop in a battleground state as the presidential contender yesterday in wisconsin, where she really offered a first glimpse of how xi plans since to make her arguments against trump, really leaning in to where past experience as a prosecutor, prosecutor, she also spoke about the need to expand economic opportunity for middle-class americans and really leaned into the issue of abortion rights, something that she has championed for much of the past th

and so that's sort of the situation we're in and why jen o'malley dillon is really trying to stabilize the ship. >> how would you describe tonight how people are feeling inside the campaign from what you've heard i, think it's completely split. i think there's some people that feel these efforts are too little too late. i think there are some people that are very despondent that it basically i think were shocked at joe biden's debate appearance had been telling all their friends and relatives that the right-wing caricature of dementia joe or senile joe, like it was all a conspiracy and now upside to reckon with that and they feel sort of embarrassed and their own personal ways. and there's some people that are real true believers two and are actually sort of rallying around the president. so it's very scattered yeah. >> alex thompson, great reporting as always. >> thank you for joining tonight now, to the other side of this race, donald trump has a big announcement to make that he still has not made yet his vice presidential pick the convention starts on trump says it's unfolding appre

now the harris now harris campaign manager, a campaign chair, jen o'malley, dillon, released a new memo this morning outlining how they see the electoral path going forward. they believe that harris can expand the support, the democrats drew in 2020, appealing specifically to latino, black, and young voters. and they also a real opening for harris with undecided voters in this campaign with o'malley, dillon arguing that there is a quote, expanded universe of winnable voters. they believe that they can win these voters on issues they believe these are people who have leaned towards democrats and they can get on board in this election. now, as far as the battleground states, the campaign stresses does that they are going to go on offense in all of the battleground states, a bit of a difference from what we heard two weeks ago from the biden campaign when they explicitly said that the clearest path to victory was through the blue wall. those states like pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. now, harris made her battleground state debut as a presidential candidate just yesterday in wiscons

and what jen o'malley, dillon in the campaign staff have done especially over the last week, the mean this is the third all-staff conference call since just last wednesday. they are going to my understanding is they're probably going to schedule a bunch more obviously, maybe the leaks will change that. but they're really trying to fix the morale inside this campaign and get people refocused back on the task of beating donald trump. >> yeah, it's not just some phenomenon where it's the media or people on twitter talking about this. this is literally coming from inside the house, inside the white house, inside the campaign. and there was a part where she talked about this. she referred to it is noise. this was her message to the campaign team i want to say first and foremost, boy, is it like crazy? >> gossip land world that we're living in and i really like him amazed though, i guess i shouldn't be amazed by how much the chatter out here is. that is not based in reality or real it is not based on what's actually happening. and i think that i wanted to start by saying that in addressing

in so that's sort of the situation we're in and why jen o'malley dillon is really trying to stabilize the ship. >> how would you describe tonight help people are feeling inside the campaign from what you've heard i think it's completely split. i think there's some people that feel these efforts are too little too late. i think there's some people that are very despondent that it basically i think were shocked at joe biden's debate. appearance had been telling all their friends and relatives that this right wing caricature of dementia, joe or senile job, like it was all a conspiracy and now upside to reckon with that and it feels sort of embarrassed in their own personal ways. and there's some people that are real true believers two and are actually sort of rallying around the president. so it's very scattered. >> yeah, alex thompson, great reporting as always thank you for joining tonight now, to the other side of this race, donald trump has a big announcement to make that he still has not made yet his vice presidential pick. the convention starts on monday. trump's says it's unfoldin

you listen to the biden campaign, to jen o'malley dillon on "morning joe," and they're dismissive of polls that they don't like. they lean on this idea of a silent majority. she effectively said for every one senator who comes out and says withdraw from the race there are 30 who are privately calling us and telling us to stick it out. well, where are those people publicly? why aren't they saying those things publicly? it just -- it's so unbelievably -- if you took some of these quotes and put them on a screen without attribution and asked the american people who said this, they would probably think it was donald trump and it turns out it's joe biden and his team not seeing the reality. they have this belief that loyalty is marching to defeat when loyalty is telling joe biden what he doesn't want to hear. >> alencia, you talk about it being the party elites, and some may describe them this way. there are also people who i think deeply care about president biden, people like his former president that he served alongside, president obama who is expressing concerns about the path forward

so look, it's possible that joe biden has it's a path as jen o'malley, dillon keeps insisting and alex, that's what i want to ask you about, is what you're hearing in your reporting from the biden campaign because to chris's point, we know that jen o'malley dillon went on morning joe yesterday. >> she was adamant he is staying in the race, are reporting that she gave a rah-rah speech do they campaign, that there is a path. what are you hearing from within the biden campaign and around it yeah, i obtained an audio recording of the call that she gave internally to the campaign staff yesterday, and she basically was trying to urge them to stop watching cable news. >> now, some people found it little bit ironic that she was saying that right after she had gone on cable news herself. but i think she recognizes jen o'malley. dillon has also done many, many campaigns. she's well-respected within democratic political class. but she also knows that things are tough right now i mean, the fact is that she has a campaign in which morale is incredibly low. that you also have to remember, like insid

and we heard jen o'malley dillon make that case this morning. let's take them at their word if that is the case, the race they're going forward to is much more difficult than it was just three weeks ago. you can start that here in wisconsin and go across the blue wall into other states as well. so a precarious moment for them, for a party still in a paralysis, and maria, i mean, just this morning, we've had if there are for democrats, is as priscilla said in the house, who signed a joint letter, we had another member of the senate, martin heinrich, come out and yet we heard a little bit at the top of the show of jen o'malley dillon, who we should know she didn't just go out on tv. >> she went out on msnbc on morning joe, which is a show that the president watches. and that donors democratic donors, tend to watch the i think it's fair to say that the elite that joe biden is now talking about, not enough very positive way trying to get him the message to them. let's hear a little bit more of what she said and then we go out and we're door-knocking

are telling us senior biden advisors mike donnellan and steve are and biden campaign chair jen o'malley dillon are going to come to the dsc see tomorrow and have lunch with senate democrats presumably to try to prevent anyone else from defecting. things are getting really awkward here on the hill. people are either sidestepping our questions were basically running away from us whenever we talk about joe biden, watch. >> do you believe president biden could win in november? >> i refer you to my statement i put out a couple of days ago still applies to everything. >> legitimate concerns from ohio voters? >> are there conversations you are having with other democrats? >> john, the dam is breaking though today congressman pat ryan from new york became the eighth lawmaker to publicly call on the president to drop out. he wrote this on x joe biden is a patriot but no longer the best candidate to defeat trump. this morning the hills most recognizable democrat set washington into a frenzy when she appeared to tell members to bite their tongues until the nato leaders are gone one also not really endors

jen o'malley, dillon and the campaign had said in a separate memo, maybe about a week or so after that disastrous debate, that said we're focusing on the blue wall stage, you know, the sun states were quote, not out of reach, which was political code for like, if we can get them, but we're going to focus on states for now. so the tone and how they feel that they can go on offense. now with camila harris at the top of the ticket is so fascinating in another part of that memo that was really interesting, was just that now have a bigger universe of persuadable voters because people don't know. harris as well as they do biden. so they feel like that's an opportunity for them as well as david chalian has been saying to us the race to define kamala harris right? you are looking are about to look at live pictures of thousands of protesters on capitol hill ahead at a benjamin netanyahu is address to congress. but first the fbi director is giving new details about the trump rally shooter. it's happening right now. we're going to take you inside the room after a quick break i was allowed to get

but this is not in part the case that jen o'malley dillon was making. when it democrats.ile there is no question there is increased to anxiety following the debate we are not seeing this translate into a drastic shift in vote share. in fact this morning for the new ipsos poll shorty ty grace with no change since april. in addition what we believe is a clear pathway had an no indication that anyone else would outperform the president versus drum. is that just so much whistling past the graveyard here? >> i mean we don't know but i can tell you within biden world it is a commandment of sorts. it almost has really religiosity to it that joe biden is the most electable democrat against donald trump. if you really believe that if you believe that to your core why would you get out even in the face of pressure to drop o out? the other thing that is interesting about this is there are really tricky questions. one of the polling question of electability this november. i still think in part because donald trump is such a polarizing figure there is still a potential path to a polit

i'm talking about jen o'malley dillon. as he's been hearing the discussions and concerns that have been talked about on your show and others, he's also hearing from voters. they say we've got you, joe. stay with us. for every person who said we're concerned, we have another person who says we're with you, joe. we want to be with you. and she said further, the broad coalition of people that stand with the president is bigger and wider than the people who don't want him to run. i am confident that when we get back to taking the race to donald trump we've got the time to do it, and we can bring home the people who are concerned because when people see them head to head, there's no doubt in my mind people will be with joe biden. so the steady drip, drip of democrats calling for joe biden to step aside continues, eight more today including another senator, although, the total number of those who have publicly called for him to withdraw still amounts to just over 10% of all democrats in congress. again, publicly called. and mult

of the democratic ticket to face off against donald trump in november, the campaign chair jen o'malley, dillon released a memo this morning arguing that they really believe harris can expand from support for it in 2020 listen, lee, referencing her appeal among black, latino, and young voters, and they also believe that she has a real opening with the undecided voters in this campaign. >> what jen o'malley dillon argued was that there is now an expanded universe of winnable voters. they believe many of these undecided voters are democratically meaning and also that they care about some of the issues vice president kamala harris is set to champion in her campaign. now, it's a bit of a difference from where the biden camp pam campaign was just a few weeks ago they are now harris is saying that they will be able to play in on offense in all of the battleground states when just two weeks ago, the biden campaign had outlined that they're clearest path to victory was simply in the blue wall, michigan and pennsylvania, and wisconsin. so now they really are seeing many more, multiple pathways to the pr

there's a reason why when they convene the donors, just the other night that jen o'malley dillon, the campaign chairman, was on that call. lots of other these calls to comfort people did not have jen o'malley, dillon somebody, who did have the deputy communication structure they made sure that they had i think 500 donors on that call. i talked to several people that were on it, some came back being like, listen, he's gonna be the nominee. i still support them. there are other people that came across like a little bit in different and that actually could be the slow death here is that they're like, i'm still supporting them, but that, check i was going to cut. it's like a third of the size now so here's a democratic congresswoman summer li of the great commonwealth of pennsylvania on radio this morning this is going to be a thing that maybe folks don't want to hear. we have time that is running out okay. time is not on. i sat right now, which means that right now, if our president, the size that this is not the pathway forward for him then it means that we're going to have to move very

we saw the campaign chair jen o'malley, dillon going on the airwaves to say he is absolutely staying in the race. they put out a memo today saying there is no plan for an alternative candidate. we also so i've got a statement from the president himself saying he's looking forward to getting back on the campaign trail. obviously, once he's done recovering from covid, but that defiance that we are seeing in public from the campaign is in such stark contrast from really the panic that is setting in all across the democratic party. the members that are continuing to come out to publicly they, the president needs to go donors obviously have said, we're not going to be writing these checks anymore until the party figures out who the nominee is going to be. the campaign is though, saying that they are emboldened by what they saw at the rnc. they watch the president, the former president's speech, and they feel like, well, this is exactly what we expected. this is the trump from 2016 it's team, the trump from 2020. he has certainly not broadening out his base and the president is going to st

now, we heard directly from the biden campaign chair jen o'malley, dillon, on the airwaves yesterday where she said it has been tough a few weeks. she acknowledged that in some cases there was the house and i biden was slipping in the polls up against former president donald trump. but also knowledge that us have already been hardened among voters. and that was the case that she was making for why the president is staying in the race. but again, he is here in delaware he is with his closest inner circle. as he continues to deliberate on the next steps, the campaign saying that he will be back on the campaign trail this week once you recovers from covid, we should also note that the vice president has stayed behind the president defending him at every turn, including on a phone call with donors yesterday. that is an area where the campaign has had some difficulty in raking in those big dollar checks. today. she's also going to be at a fundraiser in massachusetts aides tell me that there is no daylight between the two. this campaign is plowing ahead even as they continue to face mounti

thank you. >> i want to thank jen o'malley, dillon where i'm going to talk about her in a minute. >>z the next and the entire team that is here, i want to thank all of you and those who are joining from offices across our nation so doug and i want it to stop by today to thank everybody and to express just what we know to be true, you all have been working so hard the people in this office had been working so hard and you had given so much of yourselves long days and nights what you are sacrificing in terms of the time you could be spending with other friends and other family and you're giving yourselves to our country because you love our country and you love joe and you love me and we know that and so today, just right after joe made his announcement, it was important for me to continue with his role of leadership in this office of like him, who has said for many, many, many months and i said today, thank you all so very much for what you are doing and what you will continue to do. so let's apply and i know it's been a roller coaster and we're all filled with so many mixed emotions

she said that she had asked the campaign chair biden's campaign chair, jen o'malley, dillon to run her campaign and she has accepted and much of hearst speech, too, wolf was really about thanking the staff and saying that they have all given so much. now they have 106 days left until election day. and he said this is all going to be about sort of continuing the work that the president had started. and thank the president as he continued take a listen in, as she was speaking for all that he has done for the country. now, there was a good chunk of that speech that was really about hitting donald trump, the man that the vice president, of course now hopes but she will be facing off against in november talking about project 2025, talking about what she said were his failed policies and said at the end of the day, this isn't just about our campaign spain versus donald trump's campaign. she said it's really about the two fundamental visions that are at play here. this of course, is a familiar theme and align that we have heard it's so often from president biden himself in at the end, she sai

here is campaign manager jen o'malley, dillon absolutely. >> the president's in this race. you've heard him say that time and time again. and i think we saw on display last night exactly why? because donald trump is not going to offer anything new to the american people. joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump. and we believe on this campaign, we are built for the close election that we're in. and we see the path forward now after she made those comments roughly, 11 members of congress came out of the shadows asking for biden to step aside altogether today. >> a dozen members have said they want them to go plenty to talk about tonight with my panel, scott jennings, jamal simmons, karen finney, and brian stelter so jamal, which biden do you believe the one who is privately saying that he's not going anywhere or the public pronouncements from all these other people that maybe he's thinking about it all of these things could be true. first of all, i imagine people if you have a meeting with him at 11:00, you might feel one way if you haven't meeting with him

she was insisting and down at jen o'malley, dillon was also doing it on one of the other shows this morning that president biden is staying in this race is that a good idea the president has to make some very difficult decision and it's been three weeks since that debate. >> and things have only gotten worse for him in the polling yesterday, emerson college put out all their swing-state polls biden is trailing in every single swing state including the one he wanted to take arizona, for example, which he went very narrowly. he's behind by ten in arizona now he has outspent trump in arizona 21, and he's still trailing. that's the bad news. here's the good news. >> this is because biden has moved down, but trump has not moved up so far even. and thank god, he's okay. i mean that thank god, he's okay. but even that assassination attempt has not boosted trump. now, zeleny, heard earlier say that trump may get a bounce. he may but the point is, before the face plant in a debate trump was at 46. today. he's still at 46. i watched that speech last night. i thought we can beat this guy but it's bide

i talked to folks who are on one of these calls with donors with jen o'malley, dillon yesterday, the campaign tries to argue that the contours of the race haven't changed the issues remain the same. trump remains on popular they're going to keep moving forward. but the donors i talked to said they weren't terribly reassure. they felt like they didn't hear clear answers on how the president will handle another debate how they're going to move forward. if some polling comes in where he sees a real dip so i think that is one thing to watch for another point moving forward is what happens when we see more polling, particularly in battleground states. and if that shows a real fall off for him, yeah. >> yeah. i think that the truth of the matter is if democrats thought they had a consensus right now for a path forward they would take it, but there isn't that consensus because there's so much division on whether to let biden make the decision a. and then there's not consensus on how to move forward, even if biden we're to decide he was ready to step aside and with all these factors in unkno

we know that jen o'malley dillon held a call with all of her staff members and it was described to us as being a pep-talk where she at one point focus on the importance of voter outreach. we are told that she said, when you give me polls, i'm going to give you direct both there are contacts and she also told her staff that people across the country are not watching cable news. we are also learning that vice president kamala harris at the last minute joined a call with top donors. and this also was described as a pep talk of sorts. and that she was forward-looking and didn't address directly up questions swirling around about the president's political future, and that she is said to have told donors, we are going to win this election. we are going to win wolf, mj lee reporting for us, mj. thank you very much. now to the trump campaign, the former president is heading to michigan tomorrow with his new running mate, senator j.d. vance it's their first joint campaign appearance since vance made his debut at the republican national convention. cnn's kristen holmes is in grand rapids, michi

you had jen o'malley dillon on the program friday. s she knew it then. it changed dramatically sunday. nobody better on the planet. >> jen is great. >> knows how to get to 270 electoral votes. >> yeah. >> good news, there are plenty of people willing to do it burks but everybody has to understand the challenge. i've been impressed by kamala's interviews the last few weeks. she's a prosecutor. he's a criminal. i like the matchup. listen, let's not forget, the biggest issue in this campaign was joe biden's age. if donald trump gets elected, he'll be older than joe biden on inauguration day. this guy is showing serious signs of unfitness, yes, in terms of character and the positions he holds, but in terms of his decline. he is really, really having trouble reading the teleprompter. he -- obviously, the rnc speech was bad in tone, but he couldn't follow instructions there. this should give us great pause. i'm excited about this. i think the trump campaign doesn't seem like they were as prepared for this switch as perhaps they might have be

during a call on friday, campaign chair jen o'malley dillon said, when you give me polls, i'm going to give you direct voter contact. a recent poll shows trump leading biden nationally by five points. cbs news has learned that former president bill clinton and former secretary of state hillary clinton are encuraging donors to support president biden's campaign. amid concerns over whether or not he can defeat former president donald trump. in fact, today, more than $2 million was raised at a fund-raiser in massachusetts, in which vice president kamala harris attended. adriana? >> willie, thank you so much. >>> now, to the trump campaign. tonight, the former president is in the battleground state of michigan, holding his first rally with his new running mate, j.d. vance. and that's where we find caitlyn huey burns. good evening. >> reporter: and good evening to you, adriana. well, it was just one week ago an assassination attempt at a campaign rally very much like this one. the big difference today, this is being held indoors. the security has been tightened. and the campaign is hoping t

jen o'malley, dillon was on one of the shows this morning. i mean, really insisting that the president is staying in this race. and i have to wonder after watching donald trump's speech last night, whether the president might have been more motivated to stay in this race? >> yeah, absolutely. he's always been wanting to drop a contrast. and when trump goes back out there and it's very trump and does his trump thing and talks for over an hour and-a-half and tells him until life i think that invigorates the president and draws the contrast of who he is. i think that it's important denote the president has not wavered and his, his message here that he is not dropping out. so i think, you know, all these calls for him to drop out were just processing information at a different pace. he talked to pelosi and schumer last we can he still went out on the campaign trail. he's still out on the battleground states talking to people. we're talking to people on the ground. there is a lot of support for him, still on the ground in these battleground states

person who has been speaking out on president biden's behalf is his chair of his campaign, jen o'malley dillon. she was on morning joe yesterday. here's what she said about president biden. >> is joe biden still in the race? does he plan to stay in the race? if so? -- if so, what is the plan. jen: absolutely to present -- is in this race. you have heard him say that time and time again. and donald trump is not going to offer anything new to the american people. he is the same person he was in 2020. he is the same person he was in the debate stage. and that is about himself and nothing about those about the american people and joe biden is more committed to nurse than ever and we believe on this campaign we are built for the close election that we are in and we see the path forward. the person is the leader of our campaign and of the country and he is clearly in our impression and what we build and in our engagement with voters he is the best person to take on donald trump to prosecute the case and present his vision versus what we saw last night. joe: so ken, what you say to democrats who say

joining us now, chair of the biden/harris campaign, jen o'malley dillon. and if so, what's the plan? >> thanks so much for having me, mika, and look, absolutely the president's in this race. you've heard him say that time and time again, and i think we saw on display last night exactly why because donald trump is not going to offer anything new to the american people. he's the same person he was in 2020. he's the same person he was on the debate stage. he's the same person that is about himself and not about the american people. joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump. and we believe on this campaign we are built for the close election that we are in, and we see the path forward. the president is the leader of our campaign and of the country, and he is clearly in our impression and what we've built and in our engagement with voters, he's the best person to take on donald trump and prosecute that case and present his vision versus what we saw last night. >> so, jen, what do you say to democrats who say he can't win and that there are bett

on sunday after separate calls t harris, chief of staff and campaign manager jen o'malley dillon he was connected on the phone with a small group of other advisors. one minute later with the release of his letter on next the world knew. let's hear your voices get your reaction to what the president had to say tonight. stratford, connecticut republican line please go ahead. >> caller: i thought the president was subtly but not overly partisan i will give you three translations. when he says democracy is at sakes he need means of voting for trump is a bad thing. when he says protect the right to vote, he means a postelection integrity. when he says protect the right to choose, he does not mean for mother to choose what school her child goes to buffer mother to terminate a pregnancy and kill the child but you have to understand the political lexicon the tone is very good. it was not really let's go out and burn the place and down. it was subtle. anytime a president says democracy is at risk in this case for a democrat it means it is at risk people might vote for trump. so elections are how

the campaign also held an all staff call today where jen o'malley dillon tried to boost morale on thatwell, saying it's been hard, but they are sticking in it and not getting out of the race. geoff: why has this effort to put president biden out of the race picked up steam? this really subsided after the assassination attempt. >> part of it was because of the assassination attempt that so many democrats called -- paused. we expect more lawmakers calling on him to withdraw and in the last 24 hours, it's been more than a dozen including two senators who have said president biden should step aside and pass the torch. we can expect more lawmakers tonight and over the weekend to say he should step aside. despite that, there was some circling of the wagons today. house minority leader hooking jeffries said that he still stands with president biden. the bold pac came out and formally endorsed biden. chris coons, a key ally, at an event in colorado today said that president biden is weighing who is the best candidate to win in november and that he's hearing from a lot of people, colleagues and

on saturday, biden campaign chair jen o'malley dillon put out a memo stating■ç biden coul still win andd to the $27 million the campaign raised after the debate. as for the polling she stated quote, if we do see changes in polling in the coming weeks it will not be the first time that overblown media narratives have driven temporary dips in the polls. following that logic, if the polls turn bad for biden, it's not because of his debate performance, it's because of the overblown media coverage of the debate performance. meanwhile, in a fund-raising memo to supporters, bob celerity tried to assure supporters by attacking people questioning biden's debate performance as coach, the bedwetting brigade. the email is meant to give ammunition for biden supporters to deal with what■ç flaherty called your panicked aunt, your 1010 uncle or some self- important podcasters. is that the best way to address supporters with legitimate concerns about biden's candidacy? maybe, maybe not. is the biden campaign being defiant? probably, or are they in denial, we will see. joining me to discuss, one of the s

. >> chair of the biden/harris campaign, jen o'malley dillon. >> joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump. day the president released a statement vowing to get back on the campaign trail next week. >> after what has been three of the most painful weeks i've ever seen in democratic politics, this is not a colossus. >> has anyone seen silence of the lambs? >> this is not the big bad wolf. >> the late great hannibal lector, he would love to have you for dinner. >> the excitement is palpable or is that soul shaking fear? >> not because democracy does not matter or they would not be simulating it. >> this is the first good thing that happened to democrats in the last three weeks. >> i have never been to a more fun convention or convention with better vibes. >> the truth was powerful and they had to lie about it. >> enough was enough! let trump mania run wild, brother! let it rule again! >> reporter: during the speech, there were some folks dozing off, a few lawmakers snuck out early. >> he told 25 verified lies, 20 lies in 92 minutes, he is a changed man. >> not because th

. >> joining us now, chair of the biden-harris campaign, jen o'malley dillon. if so, what is the plan? >> thanks so much for having me. absolutely, the president is in this race, you have heard me say this time and time again. i think we saw displayed last night exactly why, because donald trump is not going to offer anything new to the american people. he is the same person he was in 2020, use the same person he was at the debate stage, the same person that is about himself, not about the american people and joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump. we believe on this campaign, we are built for the close election we are in and we see the path forward. the president is a leader of our campaign and the country. he is clearly, in our impression, and what we have built and our engagements with voters, he's the best person to take on donald trump and prosecute the case and present his vision, versus what we saw last night. >> so, jen what do you say to democrats who say he can't win and that there are better candidates that can go out there and be

[applause] i want to think jen o'malley dillon. where is she? lie chavez rodriguez. [cheers and applause] sheila knicks. [cheers] and the entire team that is here. i want to thank all of you and those who are joining from the offices across our nation. so, doug and i wanted to stop by today to thank everybody and to express just what we know to be true. y'all have been working so hard. the people in this office have been working so hard and you have given so much of yourselves. long days and nights. what you are sacrificing in terms of the time you could be spending with other friends and other family and you are giving yourselves to our country because you love our country and you love joe and you love me, and we know that. and so today, just right after joe made his announcement, it was important for me to continue with his role of leadership in this office of, like him, who have said for many, many, many months and i say it today thank you all so very much for what you are doing and what you will continue to do. [applause] so let's [inaudible]

all i know is, or you know, is that jen o'malley dillon has ran a great campaign that defeated donald trump. she built a great effort here so she will have to figure out what help she needs. all of us in the country are up for helping where we can. but the good news is the excitement that you see, and i have seen it in on my phone, i'm sure you have seen it on your phone. we are seeing it in real numbers in terms of volunteer sign-ups in terms of donations. in terms of enthusiasm. and that is great. and because i think she is off to a good start, that is important. not many days left. every day you have a good day is pretty important. but the battle here i think is to define herself. it might be strange to say about a vice president but most of the people that will decide this election don't know about the she took on as a prosecutor or as attorney general. may not know all about her biography and defined the race, which ultimately needs to be a choice between four years of donald trump look like for american families and what will kamala harris bring to those families. i think that i

. >> jen o'malley dillon who is the chair makes it steadfast the specific right now and clear the presidenthey see that in their public let's listen to what she had to say about that yesterday. because i'm not here decide this is not been a tough as several weeks for the campaign there is no doubt it has been we have definitely seen some slippage in support but it has been a small movement and you know this the reason is because so much of this race is hardened already. >> she says they are dealing doing withthe voters in battlegd states, her words they have questions but they are staying with joe biden and our numbers are showing that. do you think it is that's why the president's are resistant to the calls for him to step aside? >> completely agree. we have to realize elections are no longer about persuasion especially a presidential election. it is ab not persuasion to turn out. the only thing you can do is ensure your folks show up right now democrats are pretty depressed. especially the progressive wing of the party they do not have a whole lot to look at it and say here are our wins a

as a leader in jen o'malley dillon but did she install some of her own people?some layer going to happen? how much does she start influencing the white house? that could end up being very tense very quickly. it will be very interesting to see how that transition goes ended around a lot of time to figure it all out. >> john: something to watch. speaking of where the election is the polling now, donald trump continue to lead in this race. 49-47 over harris and this is in a head-to-head race but if you put all of the candidates in it's a blow out. compass ahead of her by focal points. speak of the polling did show she was often more competitive and 70% of the country was not worried about her age. but she has her own unpopularity. she did a little better in the polling but not a lot better and what happens on the trump campaign starts running 200-$500 million as against her? does that end up hurting her more than joe biden who is a very known entity? who is not going to completely collapse. so we won't see good polling for another few weeks. the first one to bring

she announced she has asked president biden's reelection campaign manager, jen o'malley dillon, to stay on and run the harris campaign as well. she said ms. o'malley dillon agreed, and that tells you that there will be some continuity from the previous campaign to this new one. immediately after she showed both in word and deed there will also be differences. >> you know, as many of you know, before i was elected as vice president, before i was elected as united states senator i was the elected attorney general. of california. i was a courtroom prosecutor. in those roles i took on perpetrators of all kinds. >> [ laughter ] >> [ cheers and applause ] >> yeah. predators, who abused women. fraudsters, who ripped off consumers. cheaters, who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. >> [ cheers and applause ] >> president joe biden has covid, he is still isolating at home . he phoned into that event today at campaign headquarters. they put him on speakerphone over the pa system, it was a little bit like the opening bit on charlie's angels with the

jen o'malley dillon says harris has advantage with key voting blocks, several of them.te: the race is more fluid now. expandable universe of winnable voters accessible to vice president harris. they have been supportive of democrats in the past and many are supportive of democrats down ballot. now this video is all we have seen of the president since he emerged from six days of isolation with covid. saying that he feels well but ignoring a question on whether harris can beat trump in his belief. clearly though, guys, his colleagues in his party think that she can. back to you. >> steve: hey, jacqui, real quick. have you heard any rumblings there at the white house or from your other sources about how is he going to explain why he is stepping aside? is he going to say, look, i'm not in good health or i'm losing a step. or now i'm that bridge to the next generation again? >> jacqui: i think he will explain why i decided to no longer be a bridge. he kind of has to. >> steve: right. >> jacqui: he said initially in 2020 he intended to be a bridge. and then during that press

continues to insist that the president is in it any can't still when it news camping chair jen o'malley dillont here to say that this is not been a tough several weeks for the campaign, there's some doubt that he has been and we've definitely seen some slippage in support this man a small movement and people are not moving from joe biden, to donald trump and whether doing as they are saying to us, can he do it the president is i guess i can. paul: let's bring the democratic clinton advisor dog joan and welcome and it is good to be here again and so the polls, are they is dire for president biden as they look. doug: i think they are notwithstanding with jennifer o'malley said, the move movement is clearly against the president biden his approval rating is at or below 40 percent in trumps numbers through the convention they have caught up in the really is a very limited have to be to free, for president biden especially given his infirmities which are becoming clear, not only the debate but in the subsequent interviews and campaign appearances that he has done. so, yes, i see it is dire situatio

campaign while publicly expressing a front of competence, in fact a memo was just sent out by jen o'malley dillonpath ahead. despite the outward confidence, despite as we speak at this moment on capitol hill, she's there along with other members of the campaign telling senators there is a path ahead, despite all of that three sources saying they are quietly pulling a head-to-head matchup between kamala harris and donald trump. what that means, we will find out in time. my team tells us we have hakeem jeffries at the microphone. let's listen. >> right there. [indistinct] >> are you worried that biden is a liability? >> no. [indistinct question] >> house democrats will win back control of the house of representatives on november 5th and vacate the extreme maga republican majority as long as we are able to clearly communicate our agenda of putting people over politics, lowering costs, growing the middle class, defending fundamental freedoms and democracy and contrast that with the extreme maga republican agenda which will destroy working families and the middle-class way of life as we know it. thank

she's already said she's going to maintain the same campaign as president biden jen o'malley dillon sort of being the architect or the chairwoman of the campaign moving forward and that were chest that hair as well, which is really important because other potential challengers likely would have run into some issues and herring that that big fundraising haul. and we should note that already in just 24 hours after biden backed or as the nominee, kamala harris already raised about 81 million dollars according to the campaign. certainly a sign i think excitement among democrats about this new face. that's yeah. it's a ton of money in a short time. >> so before we close out here, the one name we have not really discussed much is donald trump and how is he digesting all this material? because campaign thus far had been pretty much based around biden and his age. and now donald trump. has >> yeah, certainly it's it's a pointed contrast when you go from sort of the 2 oldest, a major party candidates in history to now kamala harris. only 59. she can really draw that contrast with donald trump. bu

it was friday morning the campaign put jen o'malley dillon the campaign manager out on them msnbc for 20 minute injuries had to reassure democrats president biden wasn't it to win it. should all

first, listening to jen o'malley dillon laying it out, that is the first place to start.e are many ways to get there. i am sure she did it in the room but you need to hear howell. the how is what is missing right now. everyone is focused on the damage, not how to move on. we are all mired in it. what is missing here is this notion that moving away from joe biden -- which we should all remember is entirely his decision. the entire country can decide it should not be him and that does not make a difference. that there is a cost to that. there are people who support joe biden who would be a set that. ok. it would rationally and logically be the vice president kamala harris to be denominatednow, there are lots of people -- to be the nominee. now, there are a lot of people playing fantasy football saying it should be gretchen whitmer, or gavin newsom, or them together. there is a huge risk there. every iteration you go out you have to do the cost-benefit analysis. to some extent the argument you are making is it is not cost-free to just suddenly uproot who the nominee is. firs

and biden campaign chair jen o'malley dillon told usa today she feels, quote, bullish about north carolinahat have passed the republican-controlled north carolina, including new abortion restrictions, and a beyond extreme candidate running for governor, referring to mark robinson, north carolina's republican nominee for governor to mobilize voter turnout. joining us now, anderson clayton, chair of the north carolina democratic party. madam chairman, thank you very much for being here, coming on the last word. how important was it to have vice president harris in north carolina during the republican convention? did it resonate with voters? >> well, jonathan, i love to hear you say battleground north carolina, definitely. it just shows, i think, that the importance of north carolina this year as an expansion state, as a swing state, or the national campaign . as you said, 74,000 votes in our state is 42 votes per precinct in every county in north carolina. so we are taking that energy to the ground across the state and trying to energize voters in every corner of north carolina, regardless i

this morning, campaign chair jen o'malley dillon said the president was aware the last few weeks hadtough, but he remains committed to staying at the top of the ticket. >> we have definitely seen some slippage in support, but it has been a small movement. the reason is because so much of this race is hardened already. the people that see joe biden postdebate, they are assured that he is in it to win it. geoff: our white house correspondent joins us now. dillon says the president is in it to win it. what else do you hear from his campaign? >> i am told trump's speech last night emboldened them, they feel like they got a boost from that. they saw and that speech someone who they say is very beatable. the rhetoric that he used, the mass deportations he talked about, the extremism when talking about immigration, they think they can beat him. president biden, while recovering, issued a statement in response to that speech today, saying "i look forward to getting back on the campaign trail next week to continue exposing the threat of donald trump's project 2025 agenda while making the case

we heard from jen o'malley dillon this morning on "morning joe" and she admitted this has been a rough weeks for the president's campaign after that poor debate performance. but she vowed that the president is staying in this race to win it. she even said that the campaign has multiple pathways to victory. listen to more of her conversation here. >> joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump. and we believe on this campaign we are built for the close election that we are in, and we see the path forward. the president is the leader of our campaign and of the country, and he is clearly, in our impression and what we've built and in our engagement with voters, he is the best person to take on donald trump and prosecute that case. >> we lost allie raffa. we're going to re-establish communication with her shortly. tyler, meanwhile, two sources familiar with his thinking tell nbc news former president obama has concerns about president biden's ability to stay at the top of the ticket but feels personally protective of him. what more do we know about this involvement and posit

i know that the last thing people around him like jen o'malley dillon who worked for president obama, ron klain want, is to hand the keys to donald trump, and i'm confident that if they didn't think that they could win, and that the president could campaign, he would make the right decision. i mean, nancy pelosi was out here in north carolina with me. she's incredible. she's 84. so aging is different for different people, and that's a personal decision that he has earned the right to make not because he's president of the united states, but because he won the primary and had 14 million votes, and really it is his decision to make, and even the people calling on him to step aside acknowledge that it is his decision. >> martha: do you think those who are calling him to step -- calling on him to step aside are in effect, weakening the candidate if he does stay? >> i don't -- look. i don't believe that. i believe in a robust democracy. i think the president of the united states can't handle criticism from a few members of congress or senators, then he shouldn't be president. you remember

it was friday morning the campaign put jen o'malley dillon the campaign manager out on them msnbc for 20 minute injuries had to reassure democrats president biden wasn't it to win it. should all kinds of information about how they do not think that voters were bailing on biden going to trump. so really they did not think it was going to be that bad. the last couple weeks for hard for them but the race was still winnable. every single time a white house official was asked about these reports president biden might be leaving the race they insisted it was not true. they were on social media clapping back at some of the reporters who were not reaching out to them for comment. the comment every single time was a denial. they were saying he is in the race he is staying in the race. he wrote that letter to democrats on capitol hill where he explained his justification for staying in the race. that is where they kept referring to put this so much talk over the last few weeks about what decision will present biden make? he already made up his mind he told us so now there is some reporting that