we want to discuss with former white house communications director jen psaki and former senior economicump campaign stephen moore. stephen, to you, cut off all trade with china if they don't step up. is that an empty threat? >> i hope not. i think it's exactly the right thing to do. we cannot live with the option that you discussed on your earlier panel of just allowing north korea to have a nuclear weapon. that is crazy talk. it is dangerous to the world. last night, john, i watched the reagan documentary on cnn, and it was amazing, you know, how reagan was able to win the cold war without firing a shot and the reduction in nuclear arms was a great victory. here we are 30 years later talking about letting a lunatic, tie r tyrant who starves to death his own people to have a nuclear weapon. there is only one way to stop it, that is china. china facilitated and accommodated the north korea nuclear program. they are the only country who can put a stop to it and trump should basically say to the chinese leaders, you bring an end to this or you're not a member of the civilized world and we

white house communications director and former state department spokesperson for secretary kerry, jen psakilot with north korea, and jason miller, who is also the communications director for the trump transition team. jen, president trump calls kim jong-un rocket man in front of the whole world. does it on purpose. doesn't give him the respect we have been using his real name, right? as i just used his real name. he didn't do that. does the scare minimize, humiliate kim jong-un? >> it sounded more like a term of endearment to me, but look, i think what was interesting about his use of that term is that it shows and highlights his obsession with the news of the day and what's going to pop on dwiter and what's going to pop in the news. what we did not hear in that speech is a comprehensive strategy on how he would approach north korea, what differently he would do diplomatically, and what exactly these escalating military threats mean. and i think the rest of the world, most of whom were sitting in that room, that's what's unique, were probably scratching their heads. >> jason, what do you sa

. >> what do you think, jen psaki? were at the obama white house at the time that obamacare became law? >> i admire your optimism, but i would say having been through many legislative fights before, as well, even if my own experience, the path to this is so narrow that i think it's unlikely to success, i would say, for graham/cassidy. that you will be talking about this issue with your panel next weekend. now, this is a lesson to democrats, because this came almost as a shock and a surprise to many democrats, that there was another effort to repeal obamacare. everybody thought it was done in the summer. and i think the lesson is, we're going to have to keep the fight going. we're going to have to keep the message going around the country, because republicans are not going to give up on this. rick santorum is not going to give up on this over the course of the next several months as long as the republicans control the house, senate, and white house. >> so congressman louis, is senator santorum right? if this passes the