the attempt at media in the conflict a rational while neither chief jen stoughton berg believes further armed supplies, security is the only way to achieve peace. beijing has branded the military block as having a cold war mentality which has escalated the conflicts. china doesn't have much credibility because they have not been able to condemn the illegal invasion of ukrainian so meaning that if he want a peaceful, negotiate the solution aware ukraine conveyed sovereign in the pump nation. then we need to support ukraine militate. now, military support to day is the way to achieve a peaceful agreement to morrow that a t shirt should. all these major crisis shows that cold war mentality will lead to division and confrontation, although the cold war concluded over 3 decades ago, the 0 sum game and it's mentality still exists. block confrontational leads to conflicts and was nato is a product of the cold war. but it did not, and with the cold war and has expanded an escalate of the situation and has become the major factor into conflict. so yeah, nice out. joseph gregory mahoney, professo

we can have we can see nancy pelosi they're speaking to jen stoughton berg. that panel, of course, with camera harris is due to begin in just a few minutes time. we'll go back to munich and, and speak to terry schultz. terry, i'm just wondering or ever all eyes really on this next panel involving carmella harris. what are you most expecting or, or waiting for here. i think europeans are going to be waiting for. i'm much the same as they usually do. they want to hear the united states reiterate yet again, that they did the article 5 commitments, the commitment to defend all allies is rock solid. that's a term they often use. we may hear it again in, in commonly her as a speech. but this is particularly important now, not just because of russia's aggression, but because of the position of some united states are members of congress. they are saying that of the u. s. stop funding ukraine or, or at least it drastically scale it back. this is heading into the next presidential election, of course, and there is a real can search, not the usual. you know, worry that,