you're on with jen yachnin . guest: in the first year -- caller: in the first year of donald trump stream, did he try to sell parts of the grand canyon to the chinese for money? guest: i am not familiar with that, no. host: do you have another question? caller: no, that is it. host: our next caller, out of south carolina. you are next. caller: yes, hi. don't you believe the government is spending too much money on these types of monuments and parks as far as the federal government should be? these state and local governments have enough money already in place to confirm these things, and if it was sold, it would be sold to an independent buyer. why waste the money on trying to keep and preserve this land? host: the idea of federal control versus state control of these lands? guest: this is a very big question and there are very loud voices on both sides of it. i'm glad that you asked, because in utah, of course where we have the bulova public lands -- bulk of public lands in america. there's about 640 million acr

you're on with jen yachnin .st year -- caller: in the first year of donald trump stream, did he try to sell parts of the grand canyon to the chinese for money? guest: i am not familiar with that, no. host: do you have another question? caller: no, that is it. host: our next caller, out of south carolina. you are next. caller: yes, hi. don't you believe the government is spending too much money on these types of monuments and parks as far as the federal government should be? these state and local governments have enough money already in place to confirm these things, and if it was sold, it would be sold to an independent buyer. why waste the money on trying to keep and preserve this land? host: the idea of federal control versus state control of these lands? guest: this is a very big question and there are very loud voices on both sides of it. i'm glad that you asked, because in utah, of course where we have the bulova public lands -- bulk of public lands in america. there's about 640 million acres of public lands