but this week, jena griswold is going to do exactly that. an order on friday, the court granted griswold ten minutes for an attorney representing her office to speak during oral arguments. jena griswold is in many ways at the center of this case, and she joins me right now. and so grateful you are making the time to chat with me this evening, because you are at the center of such an important moment in our history this week. i wanted to ask you, i mean, donald trump, as you said, is an oath breaking insurrectionist. and you point out that two courts have looked at that issue. it feels decided. the colorado district court and the colorado supreme court, of course. and the issue has not yet been litigated on the federal level, which i think something people have raised. and i'm in just interested in your view on whether you are concerned that it may have some bearing on where the supreme court ultimately lands on this issue. >> thanks for having me on, jen . it's great to be on your show for the very first time. and with your introduction, i g

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lastly, colorado secretary of state, jena griswold, filed a brief urging the supreme court to keep trumpnd to issue its ruling as soon as possible. secretary griswold is here now. secretary griswold, it is great to see you. thank you for coming back on the show. let's talk about how you expect thursday's hearing to go. the state solicitor general will be representing you, as i understand, we will only have ten minutes to make your cases to the justices. what is your plan with the limited time you have and what is the central argument your team will make? >> thanks for having me on. next week, it definitely, will be a historical week for our democracy, with such a big supreme court case. we are focused with one message to the supreme court. a state can keep off their ballots and out breaking insurrectionist like donald trump. we expect trump to continue to say he is above the law, above the constitution. that he has no ability to be held liable for his acts. frankly, i think that is not correct. i think the president should not be above the law. that is an affront to what this country sta

colorado secretary of state, and chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state, jena griswoldyou so much for being with us. i mean, it does seem overwhelmingly, people expect the court to allow trump to remain on the colorado ballot. even liberal justices seem skeptical of the voters' arguments. look, nobody is going to, you know, get rich. presupposing the court, but it does seem to be moving in one direction. do you think the case wasn't well argued. was it not a good case to begin with. how do you see what happened yesterday? >> thanks for having me on your show, as always. and i think to take a step back from the case, this supreme court has not been friendly to voting rights, democracy or frankly the american people with what has happened with abortion in this country. and in terms of the case, it was so striking being there yesterday with congress right across the street because on january 6th, congress members literally ran scared for their lives as our constitution came under assault. and to be at the supreme court where donald trump continued to lie about his role in

. >> colorado secretary of state jena griswold, we appreciate your time today. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> ahead, a stunning sitdown in moscow. tucker carlson going one-on-one with vladimir putin. what the russian president is saying about carlson's request to take a jailed american journalist home with him. >>> plus, he lied and lied and lied and got kicked out of congress. now a fiery debate in the race to replace former congressman george santos. we'll show you how heated the affair got. >>> this morning, new reaction to the two-hour video appearance shared by vladimir putin and tucker carlson. cnn senior correspondent melissa bale is with us now. what was your big takeaway from this? >> reporter: mostly, this was as we'd expected not the interview of an autocrat that you would expect any ordinary or proper journalist to carry out, john. in fact, it was remarkable in the questions, the outrageous falsehoods made about russian/ukrainian history and american politics as well that went completely unchallenged. amidst this two-hour essentially prop

the colorado secretary of state, and in this colorado secretary of state's written arguments, jena griswoldthe secretary of state says the facts are unprecedented, but the legal mechanism is routine. this court should affirm and uphold colorado's right to exclude from its presidential ballots ineligible insurrectionists. we are going to be watching what the chief justice says here. he has tried to lead the court in several years in a way that he rebuilds or keeps the trust of americans and how the government functions. he has not wanting the court to look partisan at times. he has also not wanted him to do anything too hastily. he wants them to be a very careful institution weighing these huge questions, but they're really important questions about donald trump right now, guys, one of those things is a question and this is what i'm looking at specifically today, how many of these justices want to poke into the question of defining the insurrection and defining what donald trump did after the insurrection. are they even going to go there? >> yeah, well, that's a great point. they don't have

i want to go to colorado secretary of state jena griswold who urged the supreme court to keep trump off the ballot. she joins us from just outside the supreme court now. thank you so much, secretary, for being with us today. what's your reaction and what's your take on how the justices were asking the questions and some of the answers by the colorado solicitor general and the voters? >> first off, thank you for having me on, and you know, i think ari was right in the last segment when he said it's really hard to tell where justice wills go from their questions, but i can say this is a grave day for democracy. we are feet away from the united states capitol where congress people ran for their lives, where the united states constitution came under assault because of donald trump's actions, and honestly, to see trump continue to lie about his role in the insurrection, to continue to urge that he has endless immunity, that the constitution does not apply to him is incredibly troubling. i hope the justices see through his lies and that they uphold a state's right to keep off of our ballot an

here tonight colorado's secretary of state jena griswold, also back with us ashley, doug, elie. secretary, we don't know how the supreme court is going to rule or how soon. hopefully, we will find out quickly on that. what did you make of today's arguments and what we heard from people like trump's former attorney who believed it was a effective day for him? >> well, i think it's a significant day for democracy. we are at the supreme court just steps away from the united states capitol where congress people ran for their lives, where we saw our nation assaulted and our democracy under attack. it was so strike to go me to see trump continue to lie, to lie about his role in the ipos, to continue to argue he is above the constitution and above the law. fopz so i hope the justices see through his lies and recognize that states have historically been able to keep disqualified candidates off of our ballots. >> they seem to be making the argument just i have kavanaugh when it comes to democracy, the reverse saying allowing states to make the decision would be problematic. >> well, i th

. >> thank you, jena griswold, colorado secretary of state, thank you for being here. >> sure.ppreciate it. >>> the u.s. supreme court is about to take up one of the most politically-charged cases in history and one that could end donald trump's presidential campaign in minutes. and arguments to hear whether his actions on january 6th, 2021 disqualify him from ever holding office again. and again, we will bring you every word of the arguments live. this is cnn's special coverage of the ballot battle. i'm jake tapper, and we will bring you clues as to where the justices are standing as we bring you the unprecedented decision of the colorado supreme court last december that found that trump in their view is ineligible to appear on the state ballot. the court finding that trump violated the insurrection ban of the amendments of the u.s. constitution. kaitlan collins is outside of the supreme court. >> yes, jake, we are looking at who is going inside of the courtroom, and we are looking at the attorneys who are going to be arguing, and paula reid, as we are seeing who is going in t