author of the book the shackled continent africa past present and future in washington we cross to jendayi frazer she's a professor at the carnegie mellon university and in oxford we have produced manji he's editor in chief of the punkers who can news all right this is cross talk lady and gentlemen and that means you can jump in anytime you want and i know they have difference of opinion so i want my viewers to see it if i go to you first in oxford i do like to go to the term africa in the new great game the scramble for influence because a lot of people are saying this right now as africa is stepping up its development some countries are getting ahead while some are not but nonetheless there's enormous foreign interest and i'm thinking of the united states and china if you like the term great game well i think well i think there's been an enormous interest in africa since about the 1980's with the introduction of the neo liberal policies of the international monetary fund and world bank ever since then i think the situation in africa has become one in which which essentially we have not a neo co

jendayi frazer point i think a lot of things have gotten better in the past ten years you've seen inflation has come down average incomes have gone up and while it's maybe a bit premature to say that there's this massive new african middle classes that i think that the the world bank did recently they're talking about a rise in the number of people who are earning between two and four dollars a day which is you know it's better than it was but it's still not what you'd call middle class in most places so i think it's a much more subtle and nuanced thing than that's going on. than what rose suggests i think the idea that corporations conquering the place is a bit of a caricature ok it looks like it's true against one here you want to defend yourself. but the whole no proof no problem getting you through. you know well let me smear me say my words the reality is that there is massive amount of land grab there's more than the smiths across africa than there ever has been there's more hunger in africa than has ever been the biz more unemployment than there's ever. have a penis more importantly

author of the book the shackled continent africa past present and future in washington we cross to jendayi frazer she's a professor at the carnegie mellon university and in oxford we have photos manji he's editor in chief of the pound those who can news all right this is cross talk lady and gentlemen and that means you can jump in anytime you want and i know they have difference of opinion so i want my viewers to see it if i go to you first.

author of the book the shackled continent africa past present and future in washington we cross to jendayi frazer she's a professor at the carnegie mellon university and in oxford we have photos manji he's editor in chief of the pangas who can news all right this is cross talk lady and gentlemen and that means you can jump in anytime you want and i know they have difference of opinion so i want my viewers to see it if i go to you first in oxford i do like to go the term africa in the new great game the scramble for influence because a lot of people are saying this right now as africa is stepping up its development some countries are getting ahead while some are not.