jenile: this is not centered. boy: big ones can even-- jenile: yeah, that, too.istinct] just like i'm--look. rrraaaaahhh! jenile: yeah, that's the one. that's the way you do it. ok, you ready to center it? so, when chige's dad and i were breaking up, um, i just needed an escape. i needed to get out of this house, and i found a 24-hour pottery studio, and i would find myself there after our son went to bed at night. i'd be there from like 9:00, 10:00 at night till 1:00, 2:00 in the morning. and i just found so much, like, relief. ♪ i realize i was respecting his life. i had such respect for, like, like i said, this new life that i was, like, "well, i'm a life." you know what i mean? like, my life is still--and it's even ma--it's making me emotional right now, because i think of how much i was, like, not revering my own self. kimberly: and when you're playing with color, that when you're having those, like, embodied feelings of, like... look at the way that this light is playing on-- on the page, it's much harder to be...ingenuine, i think. marjan: you know, we say

jenile: this is not centered. boy: big ones can even-- jenile: yeah, that, too.istinct] just like i'm--look. rrraaaaahhh! jenile: yeah, that's the one. that's the way you do it. ok, you ready to center it? so, when chige's dad and i were breaking up, um, i just needed an escape. i needed to get out of this house, and i found a 24-hour pottery studio, and i would find myself there after our son went to bed at night. i'd be there from like 9:00, 10:00 at night till 1:00, 2:00 in the morning. and i just found so much, like, relief. ♪ i realize i was respecting his life. i had such respect for, like, like i said, this new life that i was, like, "well, i'm a life." you know what i mean? like, my life is still--and it's even ma--it's making me emotional right now, because i think of how much i was, like, not revering my own self. kimberly: and when you're playing with color, that when you're having those, like, embodied feelings of, like... look at the way that this light is playing on-- on the page, it's much harder to be...ingenuine, i think. marjan: you know, we say