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so we've gone through jenna ellis, through john eastman. you've mentioned other that will try to argue immunity, that is mark meadows. jeffrey clark is trying to get an emergency stay against fani willis and this case. ryan, explain what he is trying to do. >> he is citing for one a law that actually only applies to civil cases. but essentially trying to get this stopped in its tracks. he has been battling a lot of this for a long time. he famously had his house raided by federal investigators as they were investigating sort of the interference with the 2020 campaign. and he is sort of this man inside doj, the man who was almost attorney general despite the fact that he had zero criminal experience and a lot of his colleagues including trump appointees were wondering what the heck was going on with him because he was spouting all of these sort of ludicrous conspiracy theories about how the election was stolen via smart thermostat. so he is an individual basically trying to stop this from the very beginning. but is very much inside of the do

i think jenna we are going to be sitting at 7% level for the 30-year, for quite sometime.e year? >> well, i think it is going to continue to be kind of a sluggish housing economy i mean, unfortunately, yeah. this he is reality we are facing right now that we're going to have higher interest rates, affordability is going to continue to remain a big challenge, i think for the affordability to really turn around you have to see rates go down to 4%, you have to see home prices, drop by around 30% and you have to see incomes really go up by 30%. i don't think those three things are going to be happening anytime soon. so unfortunately, i just think that it is going to continue to be a challenging housing market new sales center stage builders taking advantage of this opportunity, right now of not being existing homes offering incentives to buyers definitely offering sweetheart deals to get buyers in new homes so i think new homes will take center stage for existing homes unfortunately, the number will just continue to drop this year. cheryl: looking at the estimate for new home

16 year old jenna was one story that you told a few months ago. i'm just going to go back and we might not audience how you did that report as have a look on monday they went through the spoke to where jenna was killed by israeli forces at home was the one who found his sister's body leads on sunday. after the, as riley forces withdrew, i came back on. my uncle told me to call jenna. i found her date and the cat was next to her. i couldn't believe my eyes, the middle of the children managing in a situation where they can be the victims. any time it's hard to ask this question because sometimes i feel like children here too much faster than as with in the world where it's like check point soldiers closures more we filed, we hear from children who are very, very young. and shouldn't really be talking about those things. jenna, that wish teachers in the free district court was not even 16 yet. she was going to celebrate her 16th bridge the a month after she was killed. she was trying to save her cat, who was under to stuff with this with the, of cour

so my questions are is jenna ellis flipping?nd if so given the financial pressure on her other 17 codefendants or 16, how long until we see others make a similar choice? i am joined once again by andrew wiseman. andrew, are we overthinking this one yet? jenna ellis in financial straits meeting with the d.a. before she surrenders? >> i think we may be a little bit over our skis. the biggest issue if i were counseling one of these people as independent counsel not being paid by a trump pac is that the window for cooperating is really now. there is sort of a race to come in. and if you want to -- to be able to tell a judge at sentencing, you know, i accepted responsibility and this is how i helped, it helps to be the first in, not the 17th in because you really want to say i broke the law, i did this. yes, deiddid these wrong things but here's what i did right to make it right. and putting that off, there's all sorts of things that could happen down the road. for instance, if you want to give information about donald trump, well, w

y'all know jenna jenna is exactly who jenna is. she's always been herself.d with me -- how many years ago? >> almost four. >> yeah, four years ago. in that time, not only has she become such an expert co-anchor, she started this incredible production company she's got this book club she's making movies. she's doing all kinds of things, and she's working her tail off. >> well, i get to sit next to you, so how lucky am i thank you. thank you. thank you, guys. >> everyone go get it. you got free ones, but they are available on newsstands nationwide on friday see more on people.com. >> yes i wasn't afraid to be myself until right this moment. >> it says you happily overshare. i like that. >> thank you i'm sure my parents are so proud. >> they are. they are. >> very cool. >> thank you. >> mr. roker, what do you got? >> that came to a dead stop, okay let's show you what's going on for your weekend ahead record heat down through the south. not as hot out west. on saturday, a nice day in the eastern third of the country heat builds up into the mid-section of the cou

jenna ellis, another trump attorney who is charged tweeting, why isn't maga inc. funding everyone's defense? what kind of pressure does that have for people who are codefendants? >> the biggest question is what to do? do i cooperate? do i plead guilty? do i fight? and financial pressure is one of the things that typically impacts the decision on how to move forward. financial pressure means you want the case to end. you want to weigh out. i think the defendants who are feeling that pressure are going to be more inclined to talk to fani willis and get a path out. >> jenna ellis is openly complaining about the fact they're not covering her legal fees. >> i think 100%. what's key here is we're just getting started. there haven't been prefile motions. they haven't really done the process here. these criminal cases are going to be complicated. and with each complication, the costs skyrocket. >> another person who is charge heerd is mark meadows, obviously trump's former chief of staff. he's arguing in a new filing that the charges against him, he believes, should be di

jenna, that wish teachers in the free district court was not even 16 yet. she was going to celebrate her 16th bridge the, the month after she was killed. she was trying to save her cat, who was under to stuff with this with the, of course has which i didn't jude and. and, and as you see from me it's sometimes a dilemma. do we ask children what happened and tell the world the story or a we just can't read traumatizing them by having them re narrate the story of the trauma to us again. so it's always how just for us, how to strike a balance between telling the story and respecting the fact that those are children, you know, words on, so to speak. i was trying to think of a way to show the audience what it must be like see you and the stress for you and the crew of telling stories. when people don't want him naturally to be that tell those stories. i found something on twitter that sums it up, but i want you to, to look for what we're seeing because this is, yeah, but it's what you're not showing. that is the fear. so this is what need a twisted ad team is sti

my uncle told me to call jenna . i found who did and the cat was next to her. i couldn't believe my eyes, the middle of the children managing in a situation where they can be the victims any time. it's hard to ask this question because sometimes i should like children here too much faster than as with in the world where it's like check point soldiers closures more we filed, we hear from children who are very, very young and shouldn't really be talking about those things jenna, that wish teachers in the big district court was not even 16 yet. she was going to celebrate her 16th bridge the a month after she was killed. she was trying to save her cat, who was under to stuff with this with the, of course has which i didn't jude and. and, and as you see from me it's sometimes a dilemma. do we ask children what happened and tell the world the story or a we just can't read traumatizing them by having them re narrate the story of the trauma to us again. so it's always how does for us, how to strike a balance between telling the story and respecting the fact that those

you canga send jenna ellis mone or you can send jenna ellis digital prayers to help her defend herself in this case in georgia. and there are ais lot of potent tea leaves we could read there. does that mean that trump is not footing jenna ellis' legal bills? what does it mean for the rest of the s?codefendants in his ca. at the moment trump should be doing all he can to keep all the codefendants and alleged codefendants on his side, how long can trump afford to pay other peoples a lawyers and for that matter his own? joining me now are mary mccorder, former acting assistant security, and andrew wiseman, member of robert mueller's special counsel investigation. they're the co-hosts of the msnbc podcast "prosecuting donald trump" where i get all my good ideas for things to talk about on television. andrew, the burn rate in terms of trump's pacs spending money on these legal problems is staggering, and that was all the data we have is from before these latest indictments landed. does this seem problematic to you as it does to the lay person on the outside? >> so i have a couple thoughts.

jenna ellis and sidney powell, the lawyers, also surrendering, as well. and what rudy giuliani is now saying tonight. and what to expect when donald trump arrives at that jail tomorrow. aaron katersky in atlanta. >>> for hours today, the shootout. the neighborhood under siege in pittsburgh. the suspect opening fire on deputies, the gunman also shooting down multiple police drones. s.w.a.t. on the scene, rescuing people from neighboring homes. there is late word coming in tonight the suspect dead. trevor ault on the scene. >>> more than 100 million americans facing sweltering temperatures. in chicago alone today, the heat index, the feel-like reading, 116 degrees. rob marciano is here. >>> tonight, in new york city, the young woman who shoved a beloved 87-year-old broadway singing coach down to the ground, later dying. tonight, that suspect in court. will she go to prison? what happened today. >>> the first republican debate. eight candidates in their first showdown. donald trump a no-show. rachel scott in milwaukee. >>> newly released body camera video to

my question to you is the fact that jenna alice, one of trump's lawyers, is saying that mr. trump is not paying the legal bills for any of the codefendants in georgia. does that suggest to you that trump is staking out in adversarial position to his lawyers? does that tell you anything about his defense and the likelihood that those lawyers, looking at the lack of money flowing in the direction, may say screw this, i'm out of here. >> right, so it's interesting. i heard barbara mcquade reference a couple minutes ago the fact that more than 90% of federal defendants plead guilty. and that's in cases across the board, you know. whether it holds up here or not is an open question. but what we're seeing with jenna ellis and likely with some of the others is the first sign of a split among the defendants. when you've got 19 of them, it's pretty inevitable that that will happen. and when it will get even worse, will be when they see discovery. laura mentioned that that is not happened yet in georgia the prosecution doesn't give view of his evidence until arraignment. but i think i

but jenna ellis has also complained about donald trump not paying her legal bills.'s been quite outspoken about that. rudy giuliani was trying for months and months to get donald trump to pay his legal bills. he had wanted something like $20,000 a month and trump had essentially refused to pay him despite to get these legal bills paid. finally now when he showed up at the jail, is donald trump saying he is now going to try to help him with the legal bills. that's in stark contrast to some of these other lawyers. donald trump paid millions of dollars to other attorneys who i think he valued more or thought could help him more. he had thrown rudy away it seems. and i think that does present a risk, you know, when you're talking about trying to get co-defendants to testify or to provide evidence to the prosecution. >> i do believe one of the mug shots we have gotten today is the woman who was running the coffee county election office and allowed people to get into the machines there. she had a gofundme. she was trying to raise $75,000 for her bail. she only hit 5,000.

jenna ellis would be one of the top people around trump and is charged with fewer crimes.he allegations are in the racketeering case against her and others. she is central to much of those efforts. so even if she has fewer felony charges that she's going to be facing, pleading not guilty to very likely, and trying to contest in court, she's in a different space getting $100,000 bond, compared to others today who are getting $50,000 or $75,000, who may be charged on the books with more federal, or i'm sorry, with more state crimes at this point in time. >> kaitlyn polantz, thank you. this is a significant development. jenna ellis playing a major role in trying to overturn the i two 20 election, at least publicly. >> that's right. and she has resorted to crowd funding to pay her mounting legal fees. she's publicly questioned why trump and list super pac that he formed are not helping her out. have a listen. >> so far, president trump and the campaign have not given me anything for my legal defense. i have also not personally asked him. i have not asked the campaign. i don't

we actually had jenna ellis on "the beat" and i checked november 23ered. she's charged tonight. she said in that interview on november 23rd on tv donald trump won in a, quote, landslide. now, she can do those interviews and lie and we had a back and forth. but what she and others have to think about tonight is all the people that were there they submitted that, they e-mailed that, and if those people cooperate what side do you want to be on. on act 79 it lists several unindicted, scrammed, fraudulent or lying electors. they seem unindicted because they nay be cooperating. if you're one of the trump lawyers on the other side of that, trump got his own cal clas as we discuss that. those lawyers, those aides when we have trump fans, again, i'm going to talk about how cases work, an out-of-state individual who came into georgia to break laws and then left, yeah, you're on the wrong side of that. and there's an old saying we might get hit with a rico, and that saying referrings to the fact rappers know, people who watch movies and batman know rico is scary, and they bring it often th

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truong -- donald trump, rudy giuliani, don charles eastman, mark randall meadows, john, jeffrey clark, jenna lynn ellis, ray spalding smith the third, robert david, michael grauman, david james schaefer, shawn steel, stephen clifford lee, harrison william prescott boyd, sidney catherine powell, kathleen austin latham, scott graham hall, and misty hansen also known as emily misty hayes. every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act through participation in a criminal enterprise in fulton county, georgia, and elsewhere, to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j trump to seize the presidential term of office beginning on january 20, 2021. specifically the participants in association took various actions in georgia and elsewhere to block the counting of the vote of the presidential electors who were certified as the winners of georgia's 2020 general elections treated as you examine the indictment you will see acts that are identified as overt acts and those identified as predicate acts, somet

truong -- donald trump, rudy giuliani, don charles eastman, mark randall meadows, john, jeffrey clark, jenna lynn ellis, ray spalding smith the third, robert david, michael grauman, david james schaefer, shawn steel, stephen clifford lee, harrison william prescott boyd, sidney catherine powell, kathleen austin latham, scott graham hall, and misty hansen also known as emily misty hayes. every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act through participation in a criminal enterprise in fulton county, georgia, and elsewhere, to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j trump to seize the presidential term of office beginning on january 20, 2021. specifically the participants in association took various actions in georgia and elsewhere to block the counting of the vote of the presidential electors who were certified as the winners of georgia's 2020 general elections treated as you examine the indictment you will see acts that are identified as overt acts and those identified as predicate acts, somet

truong -- donald trump, rudy giuliani, don charles eastman, mark randall meadows, john, jeffrey clark, jenna lynn ellis, ray spalding smith the third, robert david, michael grauman, david james schaefer, shawn steel, stephen clifford lee, harrison william prescott boyd, sidney catherine powell, kathleen austin latham, scott graham hall, and misty hansen also known as emily misty hayes. every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act through participation in a criminal enterprise in fulton county, georgia, and elsewhere, to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j trump to seize the presidential term of office beginning on january 20, 2021. specifically the participants in association took various actions in georgia and elsewhere to block the counting of the vote of the presidential electors who were certified as the winners of georgia's 2020 general elections treated as you examine the indictment you will see acts that are identified as overt acts and those identified as predicate acts, somet

and several of his former attorneys, including rudy giuliani, john eastman, jenna ellis, sydney powell, and kenneth chesebro. that cavalcade of former trump lawyers all have their most shots taken today, just as we were learning that trump is once again shaking up his legal team. and we will have more on that development later on this hour. there are still seven defendants in this case, who have not yet surrendered, though i do believe we have some breaking news, that they are expected to surrender by tomorrow at noon. that list includes jeffrey clark, the man trump tried to install as u.s. attorney general after the 2020 election. and trevian kutti, the publicist for rapper and not the enthusiast, kanye west. known as we are. who is involved in the alleged plot to -- a georgia poll worker, rudy freeman. for, now all eyes are on the former president. who just spoke to reporters on the tarmac at the airport. repeating the claims that he did nothing wrong, after being arrested for the fourth time in less than five months. charged with a total of 91 felonies. joining us now, from the fult

and jenna ellis, who falsely claimed ballots were manipulated. tomorrow, it's trump's turn. the accused leader of the alleged criminal conspiracy saying, "i will proudly be arrested tomorrow afternoon in georgia." >> david: so, let's get right to aaron katersky, live again tonight in atlanta. and aaron, what can we expect tomorrow when the former president arrives at the fulton county jail there? >> david: sheriff's deputies will be waiting to record trump's height and weight, fingerprint him, and take his mug shot. here in georgia, trump is not going to have to immediately enter a plea in court. instead, the d.a. wants him back here in two weeks for arraignment, if the judge agrees. there would be cameras in court for that. one other note, david, and it's about trump's former chief of staff mark meadows. he's been trying to move this case into federal court, and while a judge today did not immediately rule on that, he did say tonight, it should not keep meadows from surrendering, so, he is due here to turn himself in noon on friday, something he had witbeing trying to avoid

and jenna ellis, all lawyers are booked and charged in atlanta.has details. >> the man once known as america's mayor swarmed by reporters as he left the fulton county jail after he had his mugshot taken like a common criminal. this indictment is a travesty. the former mayor, who was said to be nearly broke, arrived in atlanta aboard a private plane. he's now free on a $150,000 bond, the biggest after former president trump's. all right, guys, please. >> i'm being frosty. >> recruited for defending an american citizen who i do as a lawyer. >> the indictment says giuliani did much more than that. peddling lies about election fraud and falsely accusing poll workers shaye moss and ruby freeman of stealing votes. giuliani ignored questions about the lies he told. >> i will tell you if you, giuliani's fellow lawyers also surrendering. >> sidney powell, who pushed the outrageous conspiracy theory that voting machines were controlled by venezuela and jenna ellis, who falsely claimed ballots were manipulated. sheriff's deputies will be waiting here at the

mike, jenna katsuyama live for us tonight. jenna, thank you. political analysts say this indictment is the most serious. the former president is facing tonight on the 10:00 news, we spoke to laurie levenson, law professor at loyola marymount university. this is very significant because think that some people think trump is running for president. so he can avoid being convicted on the federal charges, but it wouldn't help him even if he gets elected president again. he doesn't have any power to pardon himself on a state offense. and in fact, in georgia, not even the governor could pardon him. it would have to be the pardon board. and after serving five years in prison. so this is a really significant case against him, both in scope, the potential for exposure and the fact that it'll be very hard for him to keep a whole group of 91 people together in solidarity when they go to trial, leaving. johnson says the new charges also carry a mandatory minimum if convicted, she says the defendants could face 5 to 20 years in prison. and senate majority le

donald john trump, william lewis giuliani, john eastman, mark randall meadows, john --, jeffrey clark, jenna ellis, ray stallings smith the 3rd, robert david shealy, michael roman, david james schaefer, sean steel, stephen cliffguard lee, harrison william prescott floyd, --, sydney catherine, kathleen austin latham. scott hall and miss hampton, also known as emily "misty" ha yes. everyone in this indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia's racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] --[indiscernible] for participation to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald trump to seize the presidential term of office on january 20, 2021. specifically the participants in association took various actions in georgia and elsewhere to block the counting of the vote of the presidential electors who were certified as the winners of georgia's 2020 general elections treated as you examine the indictment you will see acts that are identified as overt acts and those identified as predicate acts, sometimes called

jenna mike, the san bernardino county fire department posted new video tonight online. take a look at this. they say that they found 30 people trapped up in the mountains in the seven oaks area . a sheriff's helicopter airlifted one woman who had a leg injury, but they could not get everyone out by helicopter. so tonight, they say three firefighters took in water, packaged meals and medical equipment. they plan to stay overnight with the residents until crews can return at daylight tomorrow to help rescue them. so far, no reports of any deaths or major injuries, though at least one person is reported missing. officials say it will take a long time to clean up from this storm. the area around palm springs, usually a desert, is now a muddy mess. i grew up down here in palm springs. i've never seen it this bad. palm springs and the coachella valley were hardest hit. residents in cathedral city monday were digging out their vehicles after tropical storm hillary barreled inland and pummeled southern california overnight in palm springs, the storm dumped four inches and 24 ho

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we know the trump pac is not going to pay for the legal fees of jenna ellis.l now, we only have donald trump charged by himself by special counsel jack smith in that -- in the 1/6 election interference case, but we do have a little bit of a joint defense going on with walt nauta and carlos de oliveira. they're standing strong, shoulder to shoulder, but that's probably in large part because their fees are being paid by donald trump. when they start to drop like flies and they feel the coldness of being out on their own, would she then turn on rudy giuliani, on sidney powell? i want to emphasize once last thing before i stop. it's not just donald trump here. you also have people that have their own individual criminal exposure in this case, so they have to actually be watching their sixes to see whether or not someone is going to flip on them. >> with the 30 seconds or so we have left, what should we expect in the surrender process? >> so ari, next friday, august 25th, by 12:00, you have to turn yourself in, according to fani willis. if you don't do so, the arre

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there's trump veteran jenna ellis. you can see her smiling in her mug shot. she spent the weeks saying, quote, trump won this a landslide. david schafer indicted on rico charges. he attempted to claim falsely in a state that biden won that he was actually a rightful trump elector. there are plenty a people in prison right now for voting fraud convictions smaller than that. he also seems to be smiling in the new mug shot, but does blame trump for the plot. he said he was acting on trump's orders. other defendants have until friday to surrender. nine turned themselves in. here are what we count as some of the most pivotal leaders of the rico conspiracy. donald trump slated to turn himself in tomorrow. but as you can see, several of them we've updated with the mug shots are now booked. as promised, i want to bring in james carville, someone who knows politics, and i mean it as know knock on your experience that you've lived some history, sir. >> too much. >> you've lived through many different moments. i thought of you tonight. so good you could come. not for th

jenna ellis is publicly complaining that legal bills aren't being paid.giuliani any son are begging for legal feels to be paid for. it does seem that trump has the fund raising prowess to stop in the small dollars and pay for everyone's defense, which does look to be in his interest. >> it is in his interest. if you have an attorney who is representing your interests, and that conversation with you, and it will take time, and hopefully these are attorneys who will be familiar with georgia law, the georgia courthouse, the georgia d.a.'s office, so they can say, in my experience, this is the type of sentence, in my experience. they could also say i have been to the georgia state prison, and you don't want to be there, so you have an attorney you trust and who knows what she is doing, then you will get off and not have to do that trial. you'll have the conviction but you probably won't have to serve anytime. >> that's the big thing to. me it seems to me, and maybe i'm wrong, but viewing this, and i'm no expert in georgia law and no expert in the standard ope

doesn't mean trump is not footing jenna ellis's legal bills? what does that mean for the rest of the defendants in this case? the moment where trump needs to be doing everything that he can to keep all of his codefendants an alleged coconspirators on his side as these numerous and considerable legal troubles cloud his foreseeable future, how long can trump afford to pay other peoples lawyers, and for that matter, his own? joining me now are mary mccord, former activist and assistant attorney general for national security at the department of justice, and andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and member of special counsel robert mueller investigation. mary and andrew are the co-hosts of the msnbc podcast prosecuting donald trump where i get all of my good ideas for things to talk about on television. andrew, the burn rate in terms of trump's pacs spending money on these legal problems is staggering. that was all the data we had from before these latest indictments landed. does this seem problematic to you as it does to me, a lay person on

he, sidney powell, and jenna ellis all booked today in atlanta. these are the attorneys who represented the former president through 61 failed challenges to the election that he lost. they're the ones that made countless false statements and unfounded claims on his behalf, and allegedly counseled him on actions that were legally or constitutionally dubious. three members of the bar, mr. giuliani, spoke with the press after his release. >> i am very, very honored to be involved in this case because this case is a fight for our way of life. this indictment is a travesty. if this can happen to me, who is probably the most prolific prosecutor maybe in american history and the most effective mayor for sure, it can happen to you. >> he was asked whether he still believes the 2020 election was rigged but either did not hear or chose not to answer the question. nor did he say who paid for his flight on a private jet to atlanta. giuliani told a court last week he's effectively out of clash. jeffrey clark and the former white house chief of staff found out

everything that i have said, every warning that i have given to rudy, to jenna ellis, given to sydney powell. i've given them to all of them. on shows a q r's. donald cares for no one or anything other than himself. why he refuses to make the payments when it's not even his money. it is a head-scratcher to me. i don't understand. it he's seen the consequences of allowing people to exit the -- and that's what it is. it's fealty to donald. look at what's happening when you allow these individuals to leave. let's not also forget that rudy, at one point in time, turned around and said, i have evidence. i have an insurance policy. was he bluffing the white donald bluffs? it seems so to me. >> one wonders. i was looking at the georgia accounts. this is just california. one of 41. and names everybody. they're starting with donald trump. trump said yesterday, i don't know who some of these people are. quite possibly he doesn't over the quake electra's were. the top of this list is rudolph giuliani, john charles eastman, mark randele meadows, kenneth john cheeseborough, jeffrey bosler clark, w

let's ask global real estate jenna.hat we need and don't need? >> first of all, thank you for having me on this show today. yeah, this is the new reality that we're facing. to really put this all into context. home ownership is really the quintessential american dream. and, unfortunately, it is just becoming harder and harder for it to be achieved. so what people are having to do is they are having to make sacrifices right now. so, buyers are really faced with a lethal combination. so there is limited inventory. there's elevated home prices. and there are relentless interest rates. rates just went up to their highest level in over 20 years. and, of course, the market is very bifurcated in terms of who it impacts the most. and the young families, first time home buyers, young adults that are trying to get into the housing market, they are the ones that are being hit the hardest. the cost of owning a home, it has gone up over 70% in the past three years. americans are having to pay over 40% of their income to own a home.

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so, so the government to the current administration specially jenna data does not have to it seem to be a to a, please send them use their was this that and yes, we'll see. that's what impacts if there's going to be. i mean, is it going to effect america's ability to borrow and is, is it going to help other countries to bar? well, i mean, what is very important for every country and it'd be economy on the planet. it's a trust them. and that also is to uh for the biggest economy on the planet. what still is the united states and the last time that the and, and rating agency, the lower the rating was in 2011. also. then we had cited sites about the increase of the debt ceiling effect, vendor was standard and poors, lowering the rating back then that did cause some termites on the financial markets . but eventually the world kept giving money to the united states, meaning buying the debt of the us. and i would zip so surprised if it would be any different at this time around. but clearly we, the more we hear of those downgrades, the more it actually puts pressure on a trust, and that's

what a pest of jenna and this guy, the 2 visits this can go back in time right for this standing. but you need a versatile team to make the a was as realistic as possible. i met with historians 3 the autism and the intimate was in cologne. to take a trip to the 20th century through virtual reality time, right brings the past to life. the team use this boom, click sound recordings and photos to rebuild the world. the way it used to be, how exactly did the buildings and vehicles look the the research department a time i've compiles information to create a city map, 3 d or does things a map the contract, the virtual world details are accurately simulated in b r. but what's more important than the buildings are the animated figures, the more realistic they look, the better the experience. so the $103.00 developers conduct meticulous research. what did people where back then? how about bed with a who was out in about to make them look as realistic as possible, the animated figures close or recreate it using patterns. and the people themselves are designed with great care sleeping this

a jenna prizes a and i the ultimate consumer franchises. i think we, we weren't using with metal google on the search side of me in my opinion. this is the most significant tact trend. we've seen 30 years similar to the internet. 1995 . it's a gold rush. it's a trillion dollars of incremental spend, which is why we are bullish and tax actor. was also interesting says that that countries are also investing or just have to jump these trying to double ex investments now over the next couple of years. who's still in the motion based on this at so far, many companies out in front because we've heard of chat, jc, etc. but, but, but who's really ahead of the game on this right now, it's microsoft and it'd be the is world, and everyone else has paying rent. i mean, they really own when you think that the a market book you, this is it's a 0 sum game. google big tax strong's gonna get stronger. why the names like mine would be be snowflake and then of course, what type in china. i mean, this is really a global arms race that's happening in my opinion

so that for 50 years, encouraged jenna. but she was infection about $430.00 is created for this military organizational. now there's no time off for him to have an army. he kind of gets into the support forces and called him mit, you know, and it has a for him at the is my board section and the, the collision center. he just has an army. his party has an issue, he had ordered the stuff, which is just kind of just quotes, so that he is hit the same kids who grew up on the he's or go to the buys. what volume is a city for them? oh gosh, a. this is a and b will will give us whole because they will not accept the soldier. they will not accept a tyler and he will not accept the death of ships and the width of just the need for 3. it is now green solution. so then, because the young people would not accept this will just, you say, you say that you say that, but that's one of the more depressing by products of conflict and back governance is that africans are showing increasing tolerance for the role of military and politics accor

jenna lyn ellis. raise stallings smith, the third. robert david chili. michael, a roman. david james shaffer. sean micah treasure steel. stephen cliff guard lee harris , unknown william prescott floyd. trivia on c. kuti. sydney, catherine powell. kathleen austin latham. scott graham hole. and misty hampton , also known as emily misty haze. every individual charged in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georgia's racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act. through participation. in a criminal enterprise in fulton county, georgia. and elsewhere. to accomplish the illegal goal of allowing donald j. trump. to these the presidential term of office beginning on january 20th 21. specifically the participants in association took various actions in georgia. and elsewhere. to block the county of the votes of the presidential electors who were certified as the winners of georgia's 2020 general election. as you examine the indictment, you will see acts that are identified as overt acts. and those that are identified as predicate acts, sometimes called x of r