he asked jenna ellis, who was sitting to his right he did ask, "do we have the proof? to jenna, ms. she said, "yes." and i said, "i want the names. do you have the names? "yes." "do you have how they voted? "we have all the information." i said, "can you get to me that information? did you bring it with you? she's -- she said, "no." both mr. giuliani asked her, and i asked, generally, if they'd brought it with them she said, "no, it's not with me, but we can get it to you." >> seth: i mean, this is just me, but if i was preparing for a high-stakes meeting with a prominent republican official, to convince them to overturn their state's election results, reversing the will of 80 million people and potentially provoking a constitutional crisis, i mean, i think i and again, this is just me, i think i'd remember to bring the evidence just me, that's just me. "oh, man, the evidence oh, man, i can't believe i forgot in my defense, i had a terrible night's sleep. the hotel i stayed at did not have the best pillows. [ laughter ] they actually thought they could get away with saying they had

lt those are senator graham, and john eastman and jenna ellis. we received a statement, that this is all politics, fulton county is engaged in a fishing exhibition and senator graham expects to challenge it and prevail. >> this comes as former trump white house council pat cipollone intends to comply to the subpoena by the january 6th hearing. that will be announced next tuesday. joining me now peter alexander, anna palmer, and jim messina, and campaign manager. >>> that transcribed interview will happen this friday. they have not been able to use those that they have used in previous hearings. but he is coming in, that was after a lot of public pressure and you have to say shaming. >> that is right, it's a significant moment for the january 6th committee though get the interview with pat cipollone that will take place on friday. to be clear, having spoken to the person familiar with the matter, i'm told that the interview that takes place friday will be both transcribed and videotaped, which means they will have the potential to use some of the

what do you make of these subpoenas not only of rudy giuliani and john eastman and jenna ellis, but alsor lindsey graham? >> well, look, what we're seeing is a criminal investigation that started inside georgia talking to the folks who are witnesses, the folks who received the phone calls and the pressure tactics from trump and his allies, right? and we know that rudy giuliani actively engaged in the discussions that led up to january 6th. we know that from any number of places but also from his testimony that the georgia legislature rejected. and we know in addition, i mean this is -- remember, there's also the civil lawsuits going on, which is the defamation suits against rudy giuliani for claiming that the dominion voting machines were basically a part of a conspiracy to ensure that donald trump didn't win the election he lost. but what we know from his deposition is that he made it clear he didn't have any facts to support the claims and the conspiracy theories he was making to the georgia legislature to do something outrageous. tell them to do something they didn't have the power to

jenna ellis, sidney powell, rudy giuliani.hree i can think of off the top of my head. >> and some of them were present then at a meeting at the willard hotel right before january 6th. that's become significant interest to the committee n. your experience and based on your knowledge of this period of time, do you think president trump knew who was meeting at the willard hotel and why? >> yes. and the reason i say that is because nobody did anything without president trump's blessing. period. end of story. i, as press secretary, any chief of staff that i worked with, which was literally all four of them, you didn't do -- make a move without first getting his sign off. people didn't go behind his back and make major decisions and talk strategy without him knowing. so, i think that he was well aware. but that's just me knowing just from my own experience. this is just a guess. >> so, you're saying that based on extrapolation on previous behavior not necessarily because you knew based on experience. what about mark meadows? do you

. >> i represent president trump, along with jenna ellis. this is our fourth or fifth here. >> this election has to be turned around because we won pennsylvania by a lot and a lot of the swing states by a lot. >> this was a strategy that was practical and legal elements. this was just two days after the election in which a trump campaign lawyer named mitchell asked another trump lawyer named eastman to write a memo justify the idea. >> when you remember this coming up as an option in the postelection period for the first time? >> right after the election. it might have been before the election. >> eastman prepared a memo attempting to justify the strategy, which was circulated to the trump white house, giuliani's legal team, and state legislators around the country. he appeared before the georgia state legislature to advocate -- you could >> adopt a slate of electors yourself. when you add in the mix of the significant statistical anomalies and sworn affidavits and video evidence of outright election fraud, i don't think it's just your autho

jenna ellis, clinton mitchell. are just, this was sort up the group of lawyers that were both in georgia, and other places, most associated with stop the steal, all of whom have been subpoenaed to testify. >> absolutely. and that kind of put them into two buckets. the first are folks who testify on december 3rd, 2020, in front of a georgia senate committee hearing. many of them waves a lot of conspiracy theories, and kind of claims that were quickly proven to be false by state officials, giuliani or of course headlined that's. also several of them are connected to this effort to kind of lineup and draft alternative republican electors in georgia, even though the democratic's the one legitimate electors. >> all right, tamar hallerman again weisman a fantastic reporter on the, story on the journal-constitution, throughout, thank you for making some time for us. >> thank you. >> coming, up the latest details on the brand-new january six hearing, just announce, and who is now talking to the committee. that is next. at

the people -- this is the latest set of subpoenas, lindsey graham, rudy giuliani, john eastman, jenna ellis, part of trump's legal team, cleta mitchell who sat in on that very call where trump asked to find 11,780 votes, kenneth chesebro who worked to coordinate alternate electors and someone called jack i deason. it looks like what bonnie willis is zeroing in on is not just the call, but the fake elector scheme as well. >> that's right. willis sounded more like a local sheriff than a prosecutor who said if you come into my jurisdiction and commit a crime, you'll be charged with a crime. she threw the buck at school teachers in atlanta who she charged with racketeering and a cheating scandal. now it looks like her next big racketeering case might be the first prosecution ever of a former president. prosecutor willis seems to think about this case as about equal justice under the law. prosecutors bring cases if they think it's in the public interest and if they think they can persuade a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. trump incriminated himself. he committed election fraud on tape when he as

jenna ellis, who has previously pushed debunked election fraud claims.leta mitchell, who sat in on trump's infamous call with georgia's secretary of state where he asked him to find 11,780 votes so that he could win the state. the other two people subpoenaed are also trump attorneys. doug jones and barbara come stack are back. welcome jim schultz our conversation. you're all lawyers. two of you, republican lawyers. thank you for being here. let me start -- i don't know where to start. senator jones, let me start with you on lindsey graham being subpoenaed here at the state level. i thought that was pretty interesting partly because i had a number of conversations with senator graham during this period of time. most of them were off the record. i'm very interested to see what comes out on the record in this. how unusual is this? does he have any special protections as a senator? what do you think they want from him? >> i don't think he has special protections. he's not on the floor. he was making a phone call. there were phone calls, if i recall correctly

and allies, including rudy giuliani, senator lindsey graham, and the attorneys john eastman and jenna ellis. the fulton county district attorney launched the probe after "the washington post" reported trump had called georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger on january 2, 2021, and urged him to "find 11,780 votes." meanwhile, the house january 6 committee has announced it will hold its next hearing on tuesday at 10:00 a.m. , july 12 the hearing is expected to look in part at the far-right groups who attacked thcapitol at the urging of trump. democracy now! will livestream that july 12 hearing at democracynow.org. in news from ukraine, the governor of the eastern province of donetsk has urged more than 350,000 residents to evacuate as russian forces attack areas across the region. russia is focusing its assault on donetsk after taking full control of the neighboring luhansk region. the two areas make up what's known as the donbas region. residents in donetsk have reported coming under intense shelling. >> they are shelling everywhere now but i really don't want to leave my home behind

>> well, john eastman, cleveland mitchell, jenna ellis, also some figures involved in the trump campaign'sfforts to push forward the state, phony sham elect tors in georgia and other states. we have more indications the grand jury is looking at that attempt to put those alternate slate of lectors forward. the big question is whether they will end up subpoenaing donald trump himself. willis said she has not ruled that out but also said she's focused on these subpoenas for the time being. >> greg and ali, thank you for being with me. both authors of fantastic books by the way. thanks. >>> up next, mississippi's only abortion clinic is slated to shut down tomorrow as legal challenges to abortion, continues in a patchwork of states. where things stand in this complicated post-row legal landscape. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" from new york city. watchin if you have symptoms of covid-19, even if they're mild don't wait, get tested quickly. if you test positive and are at high risk for severe disease, diaz-balart reports" from new diaz-balart reports" from new york city. [whistling]

south carolina senator lindsey graham, as well as donald trump's former lawyers, jenna ellis and johnand tea party attorney cleta mitchell were also subpoena. the special grand jury has up to a year to finish their investigation and make recommendations. and in washington, the house january 6th committee announced its next hearing will be tuesday. july 12 . it will begin at seven am local time. committee members say there will be a lot more information as people are coming forward every day with new details on the insurrection at the capitol poll shows governor gavin newsom would do well if he should decide to run for president in 2024. now the recent yahoonews yougov poll looked at a hypothetical matchups between newsome and potential republican candidates for president. in 2024 head to head against donald trump. newsome received 40% support to 39% for trump against florida governor rhonda santa's newsome came out ahead by 39. to 36% for de santas more than 20% were undecided. the results are fueling speculation about who democrats may consider as a candidate in 2024. right now. demo

maer mind john eastman, the trump campaign lawyer, jenna ellis.ni possesses unique knowledge concerning himself, president trump, and the former trump campaign. the january 6th committee also hammering the georgia secretary of state to find the 780 votes. they testified the grand jury will join us here on "the beat" exclusively. the january 6th economy looking at the role the extreme. i groups played in the insurrection. the next hearing will focus on the connection between these groups and trump world. roger stone was spotted with proud boys january 6th outside the hotel, the so-called legion of doom insurrection headquarters. and it revealed mark meadows wanted to go as well. >> is it your understanding they set up what was called a war room at the willard hotel on the night of the 5th? >> i was aware of that the night of the 5th. >> do you know if mr. meadows ever intended to go to the willard hotel on the night of the 5th? >> he had a conversation with me where he wanted me to work with secret service on a maxt from the white house at the hote

legal strategy to help president trump and others with ties to the former president, including jenna ellis, quit that mitchell and meanwhile on capitol hill, the big question for tomorrow, will pat cipollone appear for his scheduled deposition the committee suspended the former white house counsel last week saying he is a crucial witness who expressed concern when some of what was transpiring both inside the white house both before and during the january 6th a lawyer familiar with the matter tells nbc news, cipollone will probably agree to a transcribed interview. new today, the committee formally scheduled for the next hearing. it will be tuesday, july the 12th at 10:00 a.m. eastern we don't know who will be testifying then or what the focus of the hearing will be full coverage tuesday night here on the news. >>> public confidence in the supreme court and other major american institutions has just hit and all time low that from a new gallup poll. compared to a year ago, the percentage of americans who have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in the supreme court plunged by 11 points

they include rudy giuliani, john eastman, jenna ellis, cleta mitchell, kenneth chesebro. a notable name not on the list. here he is on january 2, 2021, trying to shake down brad raffensperger for the exact amount of votes he needed to flip the state. let me play that for you. >> why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? so, look, can you get together tomorrow -- and brad, we just want the truth. it's simple. and the truth -- the real truth is i won by 400,000 votes at least. so, what are we going to do here, folks? i only need 11,000 votes. fellas, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. >> it feels like an insult to tony soprano to call that tony soprano-esque but there he was trying to shake down brad raffensperger. do you think this investigation ultimately includes him and his -- requires his testimony, charles? >> yes, i'm not an attorney but the way these things works is they work their way up, so this is one level of subpoenas that go out to people beneath him so by the time you question the president, yo

that same subpoena also demands in communications with her about trump lawyers john eastman, jenna ellis among other trump operatives, and yesterday nbc news was the first to report that vice president mike pence's chief of staff mark short and white's counsel greg jacob testified to a grand jury in washington on friday. that testimony came six weeks after their public testimony to the january 6th committee. tonight, carol leonnig's reporting in the washington post has more about that grand jury testimony. prosecutors who are questioning witnesses before a grand jury including two top aides to vice president mike pence have asked in recent days about conversations with trump, his lawyers and others in his inner circle who sought to substitute trump allies for certified electors from some states that joe biden won. that's according to two people familiar with the matter. the prosecutors asked these hours of detailed questions about meetings that trump lead in december 2020 and january 2021. his pressure campaign on pence to overturn the election, and one instructions trump gave his lawyer

like john eastman, who we've of course heard a lot about during the january 6th investigation, jenna ellisas a legal advisor to the trump campaign, cleta mitchell, one of the people that was on that infamous phone call between donald trump and georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, and ken, who was one of the folks who was in touch with georgia officials while they were setting up this sort of fake elector scheme. so, these are the folks that the grand jury wants to hear from. now, this is a grand jury, again, that's investigating donald trump and his allies. it's not one that can actually issue an indictment at the end of its work. it's going to issue a report and in that report, it will suggest whether it believes anyone should face criminal charges and then the dristrict attorney can take it from there. >>> so, more than 11 people traveled over the holiday weekend as airlines struggled to meet the soaring demand. transportation secretary pete buttigieg is going to be here to explain if it's working. >>> and we'll take you back to highland park. a woman was 30 feet away from the

jenna ellis wanted to be appointed special counsel and the president was going to do it. pat in there. again, pat was like this is not a good idea. i don't feel she's giving you great advice. it turned into a melee and there was yelling and pat stood his ground. he said i will leave here if you do this. it brought back such a memory of that situation. it rang very, very true to me. it was one of many crazy meetings that happened. >> an interesting decision that the committee went with today had to do with testimony that ivanka trump gave that was immediately in the video cutting contradicted by ivanka trump's chief of staff. having to do with whether or not ivanka was trying to calm donald trump down, i think on the day of january 6th. let's roll that. >> been reported that you ultimately decided to attend the rally because you hoped you would calm the president and keep the event on an even keel. is that accurate? >> no. i don't know who said that or where that came from. >> she could tell based on the conversations and what was going on in the office that he was angry a

. >> reporter: i just want to get on the record with guiliani an eastman, the other names are jenna ellish brings us, then, peter, to that other investigation, which is why the house committee, of course, in your story, you detail how cassidy hutchinson's testimony has quote demolishs fiction who had nothing to do with that. explain all we have learned and in fact over the course of the various testimony has done that. >> yeah. a lot of what we heard over the last weeks and months is, what can you do about a president if he genuinely believed an election was stolen and the protest at the capitol was going to be peaceful. well, the testimony over the past few weeks basically undercut that idea, has given us a much more clearer picture of the state of mind. it's made clear his own advisers told again and again it was not stolen. he chose to advance conspiracy theories and had every reason to note that it was. cassidy hutchinson, in particular, walks us through january 6th in a way nobody has before. we have much more granular understanding of president trump on that day. we understand he kn

south carolina senator lindsey graham, former trump lawyer's jenna ellis and john eastman and tea partyorney cleta mitchell were also subpoenaed. the special grand jury has up to a year to complete its investigation and make recommendations. the house january, 6th committee announced its next hearing is now scheduled for tuesday. july 12th beginning at seven a.m. local time, committee members say there will be way more information due to people coming forward every day with new details on the capital insurrection. and it's still pretty chilly out there temperatures today below the average. this trend is going to continue for the next few days. five day forecast is alright, let's go now to ktvu heather holmes in the newsroom with a look at some of the stories we are working on for the seven o'clock news over on ktvu plus alex coming up tonight, governor newsom has jumped into the national political conversation with those new ads airing in florida. and now a new poll looks at his chances in the 2024 presidential election and whether he would perform better than vice president harris. it'

another one was written by a trump campaign lawyer named jenna ellis, according to betrayal the finalan karl the own chief of staff mark meadows forwarded the memo to the top aid. >> there's so much talk about the memo that john eastman wrote and he was just an outside lawyer but meadows is forwarding a document that outlines the effort to essentially have a coup, a document written by a lawyer on the trump campaign payroll. >> publicly pence raises the hopes of trump supporters, telling one georgia rally -- >> we'll have our day in congress. we'll hear the objections. we'll hear the evidence. >> pence reached out to others to see if there was someway he could carry out this unconstitutional move, including, according to "washington post" journalist bob woodward and rob costa fellow hoosier dan quayle who convinced pence he had no constitutional power to throw out the election. also reported by woodward and costa was steve bannon's role in pushing the plan. on a phone call with the president, bannon said, quote, you got to call pence and get him back here today. we're going bury biden

another one was written by a campaign lawyer named jenna ellis, according to be trail, the final act by jonathan karl, the former president's own chief of staff, mark meadows, forwarded the ellis memo to tenses top aid. >> there was so much talk about the memo, he didn't even work at the white house, he was an outside lawyer but meadows, is forwarding a document that basically outlines efforts to essentially have a clue, a document written by a lawyer on the trump campaign payroll. >> publicly, he raised the hopes of supporters telling one georgia rally. >> we will have our day in congress. we will hear the objections. >> pence reached out to others to see if there was some way he could carry out this unconstitutional move. including former vice president and fellow hoosier, dan quayle, who convinced pence, he had no constitutional power to throw out the election. also reported by woodward and costa was steve bannon's role in pushing the plan. on a phone call with the president bennett said, quote, you've got to call pence and get him back here today. we are going to vary biden on ja

the federal government, any representative or agent of trump or his campaign or trump boosters, jenna ellisrnie caric, rudy giuliani, boris epstein among others. and then there is this a bomb shell piece of reporting breaking in the last couple of hours in the "new york times." the inner workings on the scheme they knew was illegal from the trump campaign and lawyers. it shows that the campaign knew that the slates of fake trump electors were just that, totally bogus, totally fake, meritless. quote, that story says this. in emails reviewed by "the new york times" and authenticated by people who had worked with the trump campaign at the time, one lawyer involved in the detailed discussions repeatedly used the word fake to refer to the so-called electors. and lawyers working on the proposal made clear that they knew that the pro-trump electors they were putting forward might not hold up to legal scrutiny. there's brand new momentum in the doj investigation into january 6th. it's stand ing right next to brand new stunning revelations about the plot. jacky alemany is here, "washington post." al

the people subpoenaed already by district attorney fani willis, it's rudy giuliani, john eastman, jenna elliseason and senator lindsey graham. if you go to the intent, all these people knew that a republican governor and republican secretary of state and his republican lieutenants have thrice counted the votes of georgia and there were not the votes donald trump said there were. how much of this knowingly pedding false conspiracy part of what d.a. will sis probing? >> reporter: i think that is a big part of it. i asked her how big of a scope will we see in the investigation and does this go beyond fulton county? she was clear her focus is fulton county. anything that happened in the county will have wider implications but she's focused on what happens here. i think we can expect to see anybody who made a phone call to officials here in fulton county, talking about lindsey graham, former president trump but if there were any other phone calls those are some things she's looking at closely, any contact with any georgia officials during what turned out to be week's long period of counts and reco

he asked jenna ellis, sitting to his right. one thing was it was more to the point of, was there sufficient evidence or action that we could justify the recounting of the electors? at that part of the conversations i know he referred to someone else. but he did ask, do we have the proof? to jenna, miss alice, and she said yes. i said, i want the names. do you have the names? yes. do you have have they voted? we have all of the information. i said, can you get to me that information? did you bring up with you? she says, she said no. both mr. giuliani asked her and i asked if they brought them with it with them. she said no it's not with me but we can get it to you. then i said you haven't brought media dependents which was repeated and different iterations for some period of time. >> at some point in one of them make a comment that they didn't have evidence, but they had a lot of theories? >> that was mr. giuliani. >> what exactly did he say and how did that come up? >> my recollection, he said we have lots of theories but don't