let's delve a little deeper into this story now and cross live to international law attorney jennifer braden misplayed and thank you for joining us on the program what are your thoughts on the amnesty international's report on civilian deaths in iraq. well i think i think the report for me as a little bit questionable i mean having studied human rights myself and there's a lot of work that amnesty does that i do appreciate a lot of work that goes under goes forgotten and unnoticed but for amnesty being able to put reports on it for this however it was a little bit disconcerting a little bit confusing to me for one as to why amnesty has chosen to highlight this yes there have been civilian deaths there we know that there's been civilian deaths in syria but we also know the modus operandi of isis and their affiliates and in isis strongholds what they will do is actually move it into a city where there are civilians and move into their homes now and those civilians don't escape on time they're going to be killed if they try to escape so if they don't get out they're going to be there and they'r

investigations and justice for the victims of those strikes we spoke to international law attorney jennifer braden and richard becker of the antiwar aunt's a coalition they told us washington's investigations into civilian casualties have been inadequate. i do think that this is one comment that should have been really unfolded more there should have been given in more detail on how is that how is that that we can't count the victims why wouldn't we be able to what is happening that we can't count the victims when you've seen an air strike up in close in person can level a house and these are these are very serious airstrikes and so there might be bodies that aren't found there might be people that aren't found and even of the limbs or bodies are parts they are found in of course this is very unfortunate and difficult especially during a time of war but it is a very disconcerting statement if he doesn't explain the meaning of that the fact that they're not going to know how to identify what they found in the rubble where airstrikes of that magnitude are concerned i remember in the first u.s. war o