. >>> and now, with us, ellie honig, and there are some doozy words that they teach in law school, and jennifer little says clearly that she told donald trump that if he failed to comply turning over documents, it is going to be a crime, and in quotes, he absolutely understood. >> it is a bull's eye for prosecutors and right down the middle of what they have to prove for obstruction of justice. and part of it is related to the mishandling of justice and obstruction of justice. so if you is to prove obstr obstruction, you know that he had a subpoena, and had to comply and had to do so, and this, by the way, former and current lawyer told the grand jury straight up, no ambiguity, you have to comply, and he said, i got it, and if the jury believes it, game over. >> so she is likely to testify? >> if i am on the prosecutor, she is 100% on the witness list. and she is the attorney, and isn't there attorney/client privilege, and yes, but at the grand jury level, they could break through it, because there is the crime/fraud exception, because if the communication of the attorney and the client goes be