and from the white house, jennifer epstein. i want to start with you, jennifer. we have seen the business trumpity holding donald to account. it is an important demographic for him given he considers himself a business leader as well. >> every time there has been something, you have seen a bit of pushback. one or two people involved in his councils and people he might have considered to be of his level. out of theopped c.e.o. council over the immigration push trump had a couple of months ago about banning certain groups from entering the country. today we saw ken frazier from merck resign. within less than an hour from

and from the white house, jennifer epstein. i want to start with you, jennifer.e have seen the business trumpity holding donald to account. it is an important demographic for him given he considers himself a business leader as well. >> every time there has been something, you have seen a bit of pushback. one or two people involved in his councils and people he might have considered to be of his level. out of theopped c.e.o. council over the immigration push trump had a couple of months ago about banning certain groups from entering the country. today we saw ken frazier from merck resign. within less than an hour from when he did that, president trump responded saying now that you are not on my commission, maybe it is time to lower drug prices. i think that reflects tension going on for a lot of executives. they know that if they speak out against him on any of these issues that are controversial and seem to have a large part of the country turn against the president, if you do speak out, does the president tweet against you and does your stock price go down? does

we want to go to jennifer epstein. welcome to the program.is the attitude around the president right now? is there a sense of confusion or disarray? a mix of things. it really depends on who you ask at this point in time. certainly some of his top aides like c-span -- steve bannon who are really happy. there are a lot of people who are worried who do think that the president has not handled the situation well. that sort of tension that happens in the white house, the president seems to be happy with how things are going which is really striking considering how many critics on the outside are not at all. david: more headlines crossing the bloomberg right now. larry fink has disclosed his decision that he can no longer serve in good conscience on the presidential council. having seen this exactly. the president saying, we don't have this counsel anymore. the ceos are rushing out saying by the way, we quit. >> everyone is rushing to the moral high ground. those that said they were gone before trump disbanded it ring a little less authentic. ever