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jennifer granholm and reck rick santorum. i have never seen anything like that. gives the e-mail, he's an ausa. gives his e-mail that he sent to his father to investigators as proof that he thought this guy was shady. the guy is shady. so now they'll have a new election. do you think harris should be able to run again? >> i don't think he should be able to run again, no. the guy is flawed for a whole variety of reasons. i bet you he doesn't. he's been -- he said that he had a couple of strokes and was ill. >> yes. >> so i'm thinking that he probably won't but in north carolina, the legislature passed a law that says you have to have a whole new election. so there means there has to be a primary on the republican and democratic side again. so they're not going to see a sited congress person for a good few months. >> what do you think happens here, rick? >> i'd be surprised if harris runs. i think jennifer is right. he has health issues and he did not look good through this process. it's unlikely he's going to run and obviously the previous congressman has already

jennifer granholm and rick santorum. there's one proposition here. i asked both of you patience.ig problem is precedent. right? it's one thing if he uses 284 and says it's a drug issue. and i make my case. declaring a national emergency is something different. and really likely comes back to haunt. does it not? >> well, as you know, national emergency is 50 something active right now. >> none like this. >> every president used it to one degree or another. i agree. one thing i even when i was running for president. i said the president has become too powerful. and the congress has advocated responsibility particularly when it comes to controlling spending. i actually have serious concerns about the president doing a national emergency declaration. and i am actually pleased that members of the both republicans and democrats are speaking out about it. democrats are uniformly doing they hate trump and opposing everything. i hope they remember the reasons they are opposing trump and doing this could be the reason they oppose ra democratic reason for doing something. climate change. >>

because i'm going to agree with jennifer granholm. >> what? what is happening here! whole unity thing is taking hold here. >> your career is finished. >> i know. i'm just thinking. what did i say? >> this was probably the worst delivered speech i've heard donald trump give. he ran over his lines. he didn't deliver his punch lines. he would deliver a line and go to the next issue, and i don't think he even realized he was moving on to the next issue. >> there wasn't a paragraph. someone didn't do a good job of breaking his speech so he knew what to do. that was the problem. where i don't agree with general was the president -- you know how many things the president proposed on domestic policy tonight? bill clinton, i would sit through this speech, and it would be an encyclopedia of proposals. stacey abrams in four minutes proposed 40 things. in an hour and a half, donald trump proposed eight domestic policies. eight the entire night. and two of those eight were child cancer and aids. so this was not a big speech. this was not a we're going to change everything. this w