i will take that from secretary of energy jennifer granholm.

joining me now is the outgoing energy secretary, jennifer granholm. pleasure to have you on.thank you fareed. >> great to be on. >> so what's the answer to that question? how much of this stuff can be rolled back. >> not will be, but. well, you have to have the support of congress, of course, to roll back the components of the inflation reduction act and the bipartisan infrastructure law and the chips and science act, which are the three laws that really undergird the industrial strategy of the biden administration. the kicker is freed since the passage, particularly of the inflation reduction act, only a couple of years ago, over 900 factories have announced that they are opening or expanding or coming to the united states. those factories, where are they 80 t counties, red districts, red states. so those representatives in congress are not likely to be supportive of uprooting what is a huge economic opportunity. when you think about the number of jobs that are embedded in these 900 factories, and right now, because it's only two years old, right? so the announcements of all

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energy secretary, >> i'll take that from the secretary of energy, jennifer granholm. yes. continue the conversation. take some more minutes away.

i will take that from secretary of energy jennifer granholm. continue the conversation, take some more minutes away. anyway, it is really important conversation, a great conversation, and at the end of the day, kind of an optimistic one. thank you guys, donald trump has repeatedly said he wants to pardon january 6th writers on day one of his presidency but i think most people imagine that was probably more figurative than literal until now. january 6th pardons, did you have in mind what the first 24 to 48 hours will look like? trump: i will be looking at january 6th, maybe the first nine minutes but as in the first nine minutes of his presidency. just to be clear, donald trump will become president again at exactly 12:00 p.m. eastern time on january 20th, 2025. that is when he will take the oath of office, standing in front of the u.s. capitol building, and nine minutes later, he will presumably just be delivering the opening lines of his inaugural address. you probably remember the images of january 6th rioters scaling the scaffolding of the c

energy secretary, >> i'll take that from the secretary of energy, jennifer granholm. yes. continue the conversation. take some more minutes away. it's a really important conversation, a great conversation, an optimistic one. thank you guys, both. >>> donald trump has repeatedly said he wants to pardon january 6th rioters on day one of his presidency. i mean, i think most people ma'am yij that was probably more figurative -- imagine that was probably more figurative than literal until now. this is from donald trump's interview with "time" magazine which is out today. "time" magazine. january 6th pardons, do you have in mind what the first 24 to 48 hours will hook like? trump -- i'll be looking at january 6th early on, maybe the first nine minutes. as in the first nine minutes of his presidency. just to be clear leer, donald trump -- clear here, donald trump will become president at 12:00 p.m. eastern time on january 20th of 2025. that is when he will take the oath of office standing in front of the u.s. capitol building. nine minutes later he will presumably just be deliver

the department of energy's inspector general urging energy secretary jennifer granholm to put a stopd billion loan program. the program has kicked into overdrive in an effort to boost green energy companies before donald trump returns to office. but the inspector general says officials aren't following conflict of interest rules. the i.g. writes this poses a significant risk of fraud, waste and abuse. it is not a good look on the biden administration as they try to get out of town putting all this money out there. not like there haven't been conflict of interest problems in the department of energy now. there have been. >> bill: they'll stuff the stocking while they can. >> dana: i think they'll get stopped. when the i.g. says something maybe they will pay attention. check this out. >> we work effectively with many of the gambling industry. we disagree with casinos on prop bets. when they can't gamble on individual performances they are far less likely to harass student athletes. >> charlie baker on the hill yesterday testifying on the explosion of sports betting. it is now legal in

>> well, it found that contrary to the assertions of energy secretary jennifer granholm that liquifiedunited states producing lng for export to the rest of the world. secretary granholm disagreed with that because they're looking for way to ban the export of lng which raises the larger question, paul, of what exactly is going on here. and, essentially, what you are seeing is the democratic party in its death throes at the end of the biden administration pursuing its number one priority which is killing fossil fuels. it's called climate, but they're trying to eliminate fossil fuels in the united states. nothing is more important to the modern democrats than doing that whether it's in california, new york, illinois and in washington. so that is what they're attempting to do right now. the problem with what they did, there's an argument about the climate, but so much of it was can coercive, right? if they're mandating electric vehicles. paul: right. >> they're mandating that people no longer use gas -- they're mandating the renovation of apartment buildings to make them more green at extr