for locations see drscholls.com. ♪ ♪ >> larry: jennifer knapp of course remains. ob bostford, senior pastor horizon christian fellowship in san diego. thank you for coming, pastor. you wrote a blog about jennifer and want to read from it saying when a well-known spokesperson of the faith stubbornly chooses to remain in their life of sin, my heartbreaks for them. jennifer says she is finally happy she is in a committed loving eight-year relationship, and she is making music again. so why does your heartbreak for her? >> well, larry, it breaks for anyone who is caught in a sinful situation. and so i felt led to speak. we had a chance to meet a number of years ago briefly. i don't expect her to remember that. but i prayed for her for eight years now. >> larry: you feel sorry for her? >> i do. my heartbreaks for what the bible tells us about this particular choice and lifestyle. and, you know, i care as much for katy perry. i've never met katy perry. so i didn't think -- i didn't even think this would ever come about where i would be here. but i prayed for a lot of yea