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jennifer: you're welcome. here mary o'toole, director of the forensic science program at george mason university.ks for being here with us. from your expert point of view, what are you noticing about this mug shot and what do you see when you look at this suspect? >> the thing that i think is very striking is something that we've discussed as this cause unfolded. that is that this is a normal-looking young 27, 28-year-old individual. this is not some evil looking monster which was oftentimes the default adjective that people go to when they think about a crime that is this terrible. so you can see how someone like this would be able to blend back in to what their lifestyle and not draw a lot of attention. they don't look dangerous. i think that's very important for us to understand. >> jennifer: what do you see when you look in his eyes? a lot of people have made comparisons to ted bundy. some of the facts of the case, that comparison has been made. do you see a similarity? >> well,'s heard that. i've heard people say that these are dead eyes, which are the eyes of someone who has a psychopathic