history will analyze everything jennifer palmieri did wrong, what they missed. candidate hillary clinton was. what sycophants she had surrounding her. she is having a hard time. i said earlier in the week on the couch, these people will not get hired to do anything interesting again in politics. final nail in the coffin. sandra: i remember that. meghan: big, big upset having donald trump win. all that being said, i think they're acting incredibly unprofessionally. they're acting like very poor losers, sore losers, if you want to reach out to the demographic donald trump earned this is the fairs way not to do it. >> meghan reminded me of something. practical reason not to be sore losers. they need jobs. they need democrats to hire them to run other campaigns. harris: meghan alludes to a good point. it isn't so much donald trump won, the fact that the best of their party lost and they shut out a portion of a big voice in their party, a la bernie sanders. they have real problems. they have got a fire inside of the house. so they have got some real problems to solve

jennifer palmieri was there firing her bigot pistol.er eight years, he ran out of bigot bullets. >> sometimes people stay mad, i have somebody mad at me right now that should get over it. but you can't always control that. >> by the way, when you're using the bigot pistol and the ones you want to vote for you are the ones you're shooting, you're insulting half the country. >> the strange thing about it, the reason she lost ultimately is people did not trust her. they did not believe what she was saying and she never attempted to address that. >> exactly! >> a self-inflicted wound. it was the most thing i've ever seen. an act of political suicide, because no one could say to her, ma'am, people don't trust you. >> on that note, why one pretentious fashion designer go, go! [ rock music playing ] have fun with your replaced windows. run away! [ grunts ] leave him! leave him! [ music continues ] brick and mortar, what?! [ music continues ] [ tires screech ] [ laughs ] [ doorbell rings ] when you bundle home and auto insurance with progressiv

to jennifer palmieri's point, look, they have a point that the trump campaign was veridy visive and i think some of the responses that were reported out by kellyanne conway for instance in that same forum that democrats didn't do a great job of messaging also is a point. you could go back and forth on this endlessly. democrats feed a shake-up. whatever they're saying now they need to move forward and think about 2018, 2020. >> time to move on. >> yeah. >> well, beyond. >> do you think the clinton campaign is still in denial? >> yes, definitely in denial. if you read about what happened there, they're totally in denial. because that's a piece of it what jennifer palmieri is talking about, but the much bigger problems as much as i think dras would like to make themselves feel better and say the only reason he won was because of racism, it's just not true. a lot of these voters not a lot but a certain number of voters voted for hillary before. you have union people. so democrats have to look at this and say what happened, how did we used to dominate in these states? how did they used to

>> just note that very last quote that was attributed to jennifer palmieri was said by karen finney. at that point -- very hard to figure out who's talking in those conversations but that was a quote by karen finney, not jennifer palmieri talking about hashtag i don't want a president who doesn't reach out to different groups. i've gone to this forum before and it's not that it's so friendly usually because these are partisans but it's pretty civil and respectful and this was fierce. this was much like the campaign that we've just seen, it was bitter and divided and you get the feeling that it's not over yet. >> what to you -- and then i want to move on to folks who see things differently, though -- what to you was the most, i don't know if it's inflammatory, rude or just but if you hadding thing you heard in all of that. >> well, they have totally different perspectives, i think, on why -- what happened in this campaign. in some ways they have the same perspecti perspective. both agreed it was a change election and that was a big force but the reasons for trump's rise, the reasons f

to jennifer palmieri's point, look, they have a point that the trump campaign was very divisive and i think some of the responses that were reported out by kellyanne conway for instance in that same forum that democrats didn't do a great job of messaging also is a point. you could go back and forth on this endlessly. democrats need a shakeup. whatever they're saying now they need to move forward and think about 2018, 2020. >> time to move on. >> yeah. >> well, beyond. >> do you think the clinton campaign is still in denial? >> yes, definitely in denial. if you read about what happened there, they're totally in denial. because that's a piece of it what jennifer palmieri is talking about, but the much bigger problems as much as i think dremts cou-- democrats wo like to make themselves feel better and say the only reason he won was because of racism, it's just not true. a lot of these voters not a lot but a certain number of voters voted for hillary before. you have union people. so democrats have to look at this and say what happened, how did we used to dominate in these states? how did

you made reference to a tense conversation between kellyanne conway and jennifer palmieri.let's listen to this. we're starting with jennifer palmieri and it will work through the conversation. >> if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician, i'm glad to have lost -- give me a minute, david -- when i'm more proud of hillary clinton's alt-right speech than any other moment on the campaign because she had the courage to stand up. i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> no, you wouldn't. no, you wouldn't. >> yes, yes. >> that's very clear today, no, you wouldn't, respectfully. how exactly did we win? go for it, how did we win? i would like to know, because i sacrificed the last four months of my life to do it, excuse me, and we did it. do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? >> it did. >> really, that's how you lost? >> you did. >> lisa, what do we take away from this as a country? did we get everything out that we needed to get out there and people are ready to move on or is this going to be the tone

jennifer palmieri wanted to step up and point to it and name it. that's what she did. >> beth fouhy, jonathan allen, always great of to you. thank you very much for being here. >> take care. >>> happening now, a winter storm blamed for at least one death is dumping up to 19 inches of snow in upstate new york. and forecasters expect conditions to worsen next week across much of the northern half of the country. nbc's kristen dahlgren is in erie, pennsylvania, where a weather warning is in effect. good morning. what is it like out there? >> reporter: hey, good morning. well, we're actually in a little break from the snow right here. but driving in this morning, it was really coming down. a lot of the roads not plowed. i hear that right here interstate 90 traffic only going about five miles per hour. coupled with the cold temperatures, it could be a rough weekend ahead for millions. bitter cold is the story this morning with much of the country seeing temperatures well below average. >> it's like alaska. >> reporter: even bringing a rare snow event to

jennifer palmieri also wrote an editorial this morning and she basically said look, i know how to lose do so at the harvard forum a week or so ago, she chose not to do that because she felt it was important not to do it to her. so she is continuing to follow up on that. today she published this in "the washington post." i don't know whether the trump campaign needed to give a platform to white supremacists to win, she writes, but the campaign clearly did, it had effects of empowering white nationalist movement. trump provide ad platform retweeting white nationalists giving their fuse an audience of millions. now what are your thoughts on this? you look at some of these things passed along, retweeted, dangerous or not? >> i think she's wrong. we live in a world of social media where things get retweeted all the time and white supremacist, white national its truly a marginal group in american life, because of the media -- martha: you wouldn't think so given a lot of discussion going on out there. the most prominent fake tore of electorate. >> that is because a lot of mainstream media mad

. >> jennifer palmieri and kellyanne conway tangling over steve bannon. >> if they bury -- very important moment in our history of our country and i think as his presidency goes forward, i'm glad to have been part of the campaign -- >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacy had a -- >> you did. >> do you think you have a message for the white working class voters? this woman who has nothing in common -- >> a post mortgage 'em on -- erupted in this series of extraordinary exchanges. at the institute of politics at harvard university's kennedy school of government. the advisers looked one another squarely in the eye across a table as they argued about clinton winning the popular vote and trump the electoral college. >> it's hard to say we lost popular votes. >> there was nothing that said the road to popular vote anywhere -- >> kelly anne, i started, i premised my statement by saying that. >> we won seriously. why is there no mandate? you've lost 60 congressional seats since president obama got there. you've lost more than a dozen senators and governors. 1,000 state -- you re-e

it was at that point that jennifer palmieri decided to make her argument about the elephant in the room until then it was a civil discussion but one thing to keep in mind. it may look like emotions were running out of control. that's partially true but the clinton campaign team came in there with a purpose of trying to be the last time to defend hillary clinton. this is viewed as a first draft of history, i've gone to the last five of these since the bush v. gore one in 2000. i can tell you this was much more heated than even that one was but the clinton team was trying to get on the record for one last time some things that they wanted to clear the air on but, look, trump won, they lost, onward we go. >> okay. jeff weaver, we kept hearing kellyanne conway say "why can't you acknowledge she was just a bad candidate?" what do you think? >> well, obviously i work for bernie sanders in the primary and thought he would have been the better candidate against donald trump and history i think shows that that was the case. on the other hand i have to say the trump people came in there with a lo

i think that was acknowledged yesterday, although in a critical point, jennifer palmieri said you know she is proud not to have run a campaign that was based on giving a platform to steve bannon and his alt-right views. >> that was a low blow. martha: let me jump in here. kellyanne conway responded in kind feeling that was very unfair assessment, in her opinion. but i also think that, acknowledgement on the part of the clinton campaign that some of what came out in these emails painted them, perhaps, and painted the democratic party as an elitist group that doesn't necessarily connect with a lot of people in this country. i realize, electoral college it was not really close election at all. the popular vote went the other way as you point out, but put up this quote from jennifer palmieri, she is one of the people that had very raw emotions yesterday, but perhaps they are such in part because of this comment she made that came out during the election. she said, i imagine that they think it is the most socially acceptable, politically conservative religion, she is talking about catholici

>> ask jennifer palmieri that? she's writing an "the washingto had a scathing piece about me, which led to some death threats today, which will be on their doorstep. this campaign ran a race that reached into those working class voters. they were the base of our support. we also managed what could have been bigger deficits among women, since we were running against the first female president. we figured out a way to reach women in our messaging, otherwise, how in the world do you explain hillary clinton only getting about 55 to 56% among women and not 60 to 65%, chris, where she would have won. we ran the abtables among union households and rural voters. we did much better with white women, in which hillary clinton is in that demographic, than people expected. 53% of them. we managed our -- we managed to win voters over the age of 55, able. 55 to 64, 65 plus. you can't take that away from us. we busted the blue wall in states like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. and for them to pretend it was because of this iss

jennifer palmieri writing op set in the "washington post," our campaign lost the election but trump'sst own up how he won. trump advisor kellyanne conway says it is time for democrats to stop the blame game. here is bruce turkel, turkel brands. we have a lot of things and marketing you had to whip into shape. we had to pick up the hotline to get our own bruce turkel. we start with the democrats. this is typical thing happens after a party get vanquished. it happened both times many, many times. was it way we communicated the messenger, how we got it out or is it core ideas behind it. what do you think is going on with the democratic party? >> i would give them the same advice i give my commercial clients, which is, you can spend all the time in the world debating that if you think it matters, or you can decide that you want to do what is going to sell product or in this create create electability. it doesn't matter, melissa. what matters is figuring out how to get into power. blame games are foolish. backtrack, quarterbacking is foolish. how do we move forward if we want to win? that

trump campaign manager kellyanne conway clashing with clinton communications director jennifer palmieri. who accused team trump of appealing to racists. >> if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician i'm glad to have lost. i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> no, you wouldn't. >> yes. >> no, you wouldn't. >> yes, yes, yes. no, you wouldn't, respectfully. >> reporter: but then, conway defending herself and the campaign. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? you're going to look me in the face and tell me that? >> it did. kellyanne, it did. >> and that's how you lost. do you think you could've just had a decent message for the white working class voters? how about, it's hillary clinton. she doesn't connect with people. how about they have nothing in common with her. how about you had no economic message. changing the race. >> reporter: joel bennenson reminding team trump that clinton leads by 2.5 million votes. >> don't act if you have some popular mandate for your message. the fact of the matter is mor

the raw exchange at harvard between the clinton campaigns jennifer palmieri and trump campaign manager kellyanne conway. >> campaign where white supremacist had a platform and you're going look me in the face and tell me that? really? >> it did. >> back and forth between the two teams. >>> and breaking this morning, man who shot and killed a former nfl player has been released with no charges. at this point. very latest on what happened and what police described as an extreme case of road rage. we'll have the very latest on that for you. >>> and a live report as the veterans head to the dakota pipeline protest who help out what they say will be a human shield surrounding those protesters as the deadline to leave the area approaches. we'll get you caught up on all of those stories. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall, coming live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. president-elect donald trump is off the road back in new york for a series of meetings. georgia senator david perdue, retired jay cohen, florida attorney pam bon i did, and former ambassador john bolton as well as he

emotions remain raw, this shouting match between top clinton aide jennifer palmieri and trump campaign manager kellyanne conway during a post election forum last night. >> i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> no, you wouldn't. >> as for president-elect trump's call to the taiwanese president, a senior administration official tells me, the white house was not told about that call until after it happened. also late this evening, president george w. bush's former press secretary is warning, quote, china will go nuts. lester? >> peter alexander in washington, thank you. >>> more now on that surprise announcement from the president-elect at his rally last night. james mattis is his pick for secretary of defense. a tough-talking former marine general, and now a battle is brewing over a waiving a law that as currently written bars him from running the pentagon. nbc's hans nichols explains. >> reporter: for president-elect trump, a sneak announcement. >> we are going to appoint "mad dog" mattis as our secretary of defense. >> reporter: 41 years as a marine, retired general jam

jennifer palmieri accused the website breitbart once run by ceo steve bannon of promoting racist views it's providing a platform for white supremacists. makes me a brilliant tactician i am glad to have lost. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform. are you going to look me in the face and say that? >> it did. >> and kellyanne took issue with pollster joel ben nen son for bringing up clinton's popular vote lead. >> the fact of the matter is more americans voted for hillary clinton than donald trump. >> there is nothing that said the road to popular vote anywhere -- >> i premised my statement by saying that. >> hey, guys, we won. you don't have to respond. >> kellyanne conway and joel n benenson are here now. we will see if there's any more yelling. they both promised there won't be. different versions of the same question, joel let me start with you, are you being sore losers? >> i don't think so. we acknowledged from the start they won, he's president-elect. i was taking issue with the notion there is a mandate and talk about connecting with people over

clinton communications director, jennifer palmieri, argued there were some stains on the trump >> that's just crap. >> reporter: trump campaign manager kellyanne conway was sitting right across from her. >> so you guys -- >> guys. >> reporter: clinton media strategist mandy grunwald had this backhanded compliment for >> reporter: trump aides, she argued, had flooded the web with fake stories about clinton. >> reporter: conway shrugged off the criticism on "cbs this morning." >> obviously some of these for donald trump to become the next president of the united states. >> reporter: this panel was meant to serve as a first draft of campaign history. apparently, history will show, scott, that both sides were still nurse something serious grievances three weeks after election day. >> pelley: nancy cordes, thanks. near new orleans today, authorities confirmed that former n.f.l. running back joe mcknight was killed yesterday in an act of road rage. he was 28 and unarmed. the gunman handed overis custody but was later released with no charges so far. omar villafranca is there. >> reporter: two

i can imagine what jennifer palmieri felt. >> i wouldn't say they have been polite, theyave been civil. it's not like they have been friendly. this forum always takes place about three weeks after the election when feelings are still pretty high. the clinton people thought they were going to win. for them, they had three weeks and they have not yet come to terms with. >> i do that at the end of the show tonight. it was too soon for an election which happened too quickly. nobody knew it was going to happen. the trump people didn't know. nobody knew this was going to go the way it did. >> part of it is the shock of that defeat, as you say, that the clinton people haven't come to terms with. i have been going to these things since 1984. i have moderated for panels. they're for history as well as students. to lay down the first draft of history from the sources. and i was there when the whole lee atwater controversy over the willy horton ad in the campaign of '88, that was raw, i modratded that panel, yet the situation was civil because there was a feeling in the room that, you know what.

emails from jennifer palmieri and jake sullivan showed they kept in touch with organizers of that effortor weeks. bun of the first conversations occurred with michael bacca. he was trying to flip republican electors to a third-party candidate. he's facing possible charges for switching his vote. the futile efforts of the so-called faithless electors died monday. enough -- hillary clinton lost more electors than trump. trump only had two he selectors defect. so quite an effort there led by the losing dems. the metro in the nation's capital is under fire, breaking with tradition, not including any mention of our next president on the inauguration smart trip card. the metro claims they omitted a trump photo because the president-elect's team never authorized a picture for use before the cards were print. but no permission is needed to include the president-elect's name. there is the president on the cards in 2009 and 2013. that swamp definitely needs some draining. >> we are going to washington, d.c. and we are going to drain the swamp. you probably heard me say it. drain the swamp. lou: ed

meanwhile, an election discussion between clinton spokeswoman jennifer palmieri and trump campaign manager kellyanne conway ... erupts into a shouting match at a harvard event dubbed: the campaign for president: the managers look at 2016. palmieri says: "i would rather lose than palmieri says: "yes conway says: "no you wouldn't / palmieri says: "it did kellyanne it did." blanchard on-cam tag says: "although the election is over, the vote counting continues, as the green party candidate forcing a recount in wisconsin, underway right now and she is still fighting for one in michigan, despite push back from the trump campaign and news this morning that the state's attorney general is moving to block the recount. in washington, lauren blanchard, fox news." meanwhile-- new york city is fining anthony weiner 65-thousand dollars. the city's campaign finance money to cover a personal phone and dry cleaning, among other infractions during his run for mayor in 20-13. a spokeswoman for the weiner for mayor campaign declined to comment on the fines. weiner finished fifth in the race for mayor, after a

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>> absolutely, in fairness expectations are so low amopping people like jennifer palmieri they make it easier for him to do it. lou: i am discounting palmieri by the way who is out of her mind. that is the most ignore an classless thing she could have said, and she knows it. >> he as exceeded almost every expectation that -- lou: i apologize, governor pence, we have a break we'll com come back if you stand by with us. let's go to governor pence. >> people across america fridays from today -- 42, days from today. i'm humble to say i'll take the oath of office to be the next vice president of the united states of america. my family and i are grateful and deat death deeply humbled. i came here today on behalf of my family to just say thanks. but mostly i am here tonight as a fellow american. to say to the people of iowa, thank you that one month ago today, you voted to elect a president who will make america great again. [cheers and applause] so thank you iowa. thank you for doing your part to make donald trump the 45th president of the united states of america. he did it. he did it. we h

>> absolutely, in fairness expectations are so low amopping people like jennifer palmieri they make it easier for him to do it. lou: i am discounting palmieri by the way who is out of her mind. that is the most ignore an classless thing she could have said, and she knows it. >> he as exceeded almost every expectation that -- lou: i apologize, governor pence, we have a break we'll com come back if you stand by with us. let's go to governor pence. >> people across america fridays from today -- 42, days from today. i'm humble to say i'll take the oath of office to be the next vice president of the united states of america. my family and i are grateful and deat death deeply humbled. i came here today on behalf of my family to just say thanks. but mostly i am here tonight as a fellow american. to say to the people of iowa, thank you that one month ago today, you voted to elect a president who will make america great again. [cheers and applause] so thank you iowa. thank you for doing your part to make donald trump the 45th president of the united states of america. he did it. he did it. we h

jennifer palmieri, writing in a washington postop-ed quote, i don't know whether the trump campaign neededorm to white sue seem sifts to win but the campaign clearly did and effect powering the white nationalist movement. trump advisor kellyanne conway said time for democrats to stop the blame game. >> white supremacists. jim comey, fake news, bernie sanders. he has the awed daft to won. how about he won 22 states and 13 million voters and never fully simulated him back in. every time i respond against specious allegations leading to death threats, so i really resent it. anytime i try to respond i'm seen ungracious. why are we sore winners. i'm not a sore winner. my guy is winner. next president of the united states. it has to stop chris, this incendiary rhetoric from people that can't admit they lost. it has to stop. it is costing a lot of angst. melissa: whoo. juan williams is a fox news political analyst and author of, we the people. mercedes schlapp a former media spokeswoman for president george w. bush and a fox news contributor. juan, let me start with you. it strikes me when i watc

kel kellyanne attended and had this exchange with jennifer palmieri. >> i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> no you wouldn't. that's clear to me. now you wouldn't respectfully. do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a flat form in. >> you did. >> you think this woman who has nothing in common with -- >> i'm not saying that's whou how you won -- >> how about it's hillary clinton. she doesn't connect with people. how about they have nothing in common with her. >> wow. pretty unbelievable. pretty pathetic. now the clinton campaign, they're still trying to play the race card. now her failed campaign, they refused to admit that their candidate hillary was a terrible candidate with no vision. instead they're throwing out insults and wasting their time with this ridiculous so-called recount event. the abusively biassed press, well they're now sinking to a disturbing new low. yesterday before president-elect trump's announcement of carrier, the website ftb live obtained a va of a cnn producer joking about donald trump's plane crashing. really? take a look

. >> on thursday at harvard, hillary clinton's communications director, jennifer palmieri, accused the trump campaign of playing to white supremacists, essentially helping him get to the 270 electoral college vote threshold. do you think that's true? >> eamon, there's no question about this. president-elect trump launched his campaign on a very sort of profound anti-immigrant sentiment. over the course of the campaign, he talks about a full muslim ban throughout the campaign he sort of pandered to the so-called alt-right and as soon as he's in a position to make powerful decisions, he appoints steve bannon. his selection for attorney general is jeff sessions. you do not have to look far to understand the ways in which the trump campaign and now the trump transition team has not just been pandering to what folks are referring to as the white-alt or nationalists, they have them involved in the messaging involved in the campaign. we should understand the strategy for what it is because that's the only way for to us do two things. number one, realize white nationalism and white supremacy i

joining us is jennifer palmieri, the communications director for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. thank you for doing here. >> i am happy to be here. >> i know this is your first media interview since the election. >> yes. >> i appreciate you doing it here. how are you? >> i'm glad it's december. november wasn't the best month. so, yeah, glad to be moving on. >> do you know what you're doing next? >> i don't, but i -- i have options, so, you know, i'm grateful for that. but it's been -- yeah, as a -- i definitely would not want to live through that night again, tuesday, november 8th. >> was -- on a scale of 1 to 100, how much of a surprise was the overall result? >> it was definitely a surprise. i would say i probably went into that night thinking there was a 35% chance that we would not win, but i'll tell you, throughout the entire 18 months, there's probably something you saw every day in america that made you understand that it was possible that we were going to lose. so i always had this sense -- you always saw the numbers, everything looked fine, like we were going

jennifer palmieri were there, they were there to talk about ar record history for harvard, but things turned ugly quickly. let's listen. >> if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tack 'tis, i am proud to have lost. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremists had a platform, are you going to look me in the face and say that? >> it did. it did. >> could you have a decent message for the white working-class voters? >> that was ugh will i and raw, but does it reflect the two americas we live in, or was it somewhat overbaked? >> i think a lot of people noted it actually reflected their facebook feed he it show the dietsch division. the clinton people clearly feel they had an uphill battle, and you heard complaints from them yesterday that the media was against them and that they were really up against a candidate and a campaign that was waging a nasty, negative race and harnessing some of the worst impulses of voters. ings that is something the trump folks took real issue with. i think that shows how much work there is to hit this note of unificatio

know you were there going up against jennifer palmieri and it got nasty on the side of the left.let me play a part of it with kellyanne and i want your perspective. >> i would rather lose than play the way you did. >> no, you wouldn't. >> no, you wouldn't. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? >> you did. >> do you think you could have just had a decent message for the white working class voters? do you think this woman who has nothing in common with anybody -- >> that's how you campaigned that way. >> how about it's hillary clinton, she doesn't connect with people, they have nothing in common with her. >> my question, you were there. was it really that bad? are they really that far that far out of touch with reality? >> they had a fatally flawed candidate that never connected with the american people. donald trump won over 200 counties which obabarack obama four years ago. people want a better country. he understands the problems of the working class. he's fixing those problems already as we see by bringing jobs, keeping jobs here in america.

. >> nancy: at the harvard kennedy school of government, tensions high between jennifer palmieri and kellyanne conway during a campaign roundtable discussion. >> the platform that they gave to white supremacists, white nationalists and very important moment in a history of our country, i think as his present si goes forward, i am going to be very glad to be part of the campaign... >> excuse me, she said white supremacist, so i have to follow up. i know it's mentioned a lot on your web site. do you think i ran a campaign that white supremacists had a platform? you going to look me in the eye the road to the popular vote... >> i premised my statement by saying, that but you can't... >> guy, we won, you don't have to respond. seriously? >> nancy: very heated in cambridge. by the way, the president-elect kicked off his thank you tour in indiana where he announced a deal to keep carrier air conditioning jobs in the united states. that deal will save 1,000 jobs at one factory in indiana, but 700 other jobs will still move to mexico. in the control room, nancy chen, 7news "today in new engl

know you were there going up against jennifer palmieri and it got nasty on the side of the left.let me play a part of it with kellyanne and i want your perspective. >> i would rather lose than play the way you did. >> no, you wouldn't. >> no, you wouldn't. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform? >> you did. >> do you think you could have just had a decent message for the white working class voters? do you think this woman who has nothing in common with anybody -- >> that's how you campaigned that way. >> how about it's hillary clinton, she doesn't connect with people, they have nothing in common with her. >> my question, you were there. was it really that bad? are they really that far that far out of touch with reality? >> they had a fatally flawed candidate that never connected with the american people. donald trump won over 200 counties which obabarack obama four years ago. people want a better country. he understands the problems of the working class. he's fixing those problems already as we see by bringing jobs, keeping jobs here in america.

that was jennifer palmieri talking to rachel maddow, talking about the ten members of the electoral collegebriefing into russia's hacking deliberately in favor of briefing before they vote to make donald trump the president of the united states. john podesta said this. it raises very grave issues. the electors have a solemn responsibility. how big is the demand among the electors for this information? >> it's driven by democratic electors. in places where hillary clinton won they're the one driving this. one is christine pelosi. >> electors, it's very common for them to turn out to be relatives of officeholders. >> it's an honor to be an elector. they're kind of getting a real-time civics lesson, the presidential election hasn't really happened until the 19th. >> one republican involved. that's the republican from texas who has already said he's not going to vote for donald trump. >> exactly. he's the only republican so far who said he's not going to cast his ballot for donald trump. for this to influence the election you would need at least three dozen more republicans. >> you need 37 elec

trump campaign manager kelly conway and jennifer palmieri were some of the participants in a forum last night where they traded vicious barbs. palmieri suggesting that the trump campaign was based on a platform of white supremacy. when things were a bit more calm when conway appeared with robby mook a short time later, that didn't stop either one from continuing their attacks. >> i think there's a lot of things we need to exam coming out of this. congress has got to investigate what happened with russia. we cannot have foreign aggressors intervening with the electio election. >> i think the biggest piece of fake news in this election was that donald trump couldn't win. >> the federalist, david wall joins us in a moment. first to trace gallagher with m more. it got heated. >> they've all been civil until now. in fact the moderator at harvard kept reminding the dam pain this was meant to be a first draft of history for generations to come. future generations will now how bitter this campaign was. one of the most contentious back and forth came when clinton communications director jen palm

loaded question now, and you also have, we should mention hillary clinton communications director jennifer palmieri tweeting she has trouble reading the stories. lot of clinton officials tried to get focus on russian involvement in the final days. as we know the election did not go the way they had hoped. steph? >> casey, do you think you'll have an opportunity to ask president-elect trump any of these questions later on today? >> reporter: he's traveling to the army/navy game, we're expecting he'll spend time on both sides, with army and navy, although he won't be doing a formal switch because he is not actually the president. there is tradition surrounding that but he'll spend time with veterans of army and navy and marine corps service organizations. the pool that's traveling with him that small group of reporters that follows him everywhere and we expect to see him tomorrow morning with chris wallace on "fox news sunday" his first sunday show interview since this happened and going to likely speak with a couple of cbs sports anchors midway through this game, so we're going to be watching closel

. >> culminating in a fuming exchange between clinton campaign communications director jennifer palmieri and kellyanne conway. at issue steve bannon, the trump strategist who came from breitbart news slammed for white nationalists, the so-called alt-right. >> donald trump built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. >> i am more proud of hillary clinton's all right speech than any other moment on the campaign because she had the courage to stand up. >> wow. >> conway accusing the clinton campaign of not having a message. >> do you think you could have had a decent message for white working class records? hillary clinton doesn't connect with people. they have nothing in common with her . >> reporter: when a clinton strategist cited her 2.5 million lead in the popular vote. >> don't act as if you have a popular mandate for your message. >> conway shot back. >> i can tell you're angry. hashtag, he's your president. >> reporter: they did agree on resentment of the media. trump's team saying the media were pro clinton. the clinton team saying far more attention was paid to her e-mails than t

and i think though we've had all these skirmishes with bill blaming comey and jennifer palmieri blaming racism and so forth, the real e-mails i'd like to see would be between the bill clinton camp and the hillary camp because you can bet that there is some analysis going on. and i think, as dan said, not just bill clinton, but a lot of these people probably felt ignored and that they could have won. >> i think there were really two main things going on here that no one is talking about. okay, they broke down the blue wall and, you know, rural and working class whites voted heavily for trump. however, catholics voted for trump in numbers that they normal wouldn't, i think because they cared about the court. and white, college educated males voted for trump. i think a lot of that had to do with going into the voting booth on the last day and saying, i can't take eight more years. >> dan, i'm going to disagree here a little bit in the sense of i think the democrats actually -- i do think they need to do something on energy. they do need to adjust their message somewhat. but, you know, the

. >> let me play a clip and i want david, you and all to react, jennifer palmieri with communicationsector during the clinton campaign. kellyanne conway, the trump campaign manager, they had an exchange at harvard university last night. supposed to be a very serious, intellectual discussion. that turned into this. >> prying a platform for white supremacists i am glad to have laws -- >> i would rather lose than win the way you did. >> do you think a ran a campaign where white sue prem sifts -- >> you did. >> a little unusually nasty. >> yeah. i think it did. look, this is not just a -- a difference in ideological vision for the country. i mean, this was very personal. heart-thought and the clinton team made a bet to disqualify this guy on temperament and qualifications and last to bet. they didn't turn out democrats. i think, you know, going after them the way they, may be heartfelt. maybe people i glee with that. a self-indulgence to say if you're a democrat, i see. energized white supremacists that's why hillary clinton lost. it's a misreading of what happened. >> nobody's over it on