one of them is her one of her best friends, jennifer patterson... >> guest: right. c-span: ... whose husband is? >> guest: howard stringer, who used to be the former head of cbs, who is now heading up some new kind of cable television thing that's a little bit up in the air because of mike ovitz, who arranged it, has left to go to disney. c-span: and also, annie liebovitz. >> guest: yes, very good friend of hers. they traveled when they were 16 or 17 to a kibbutz together in israel, although alison's not jewish, she wanted to spend some time on a kibbutz. c-span: and how did you find her? >> guest: i met alison by happenstance at at a dinner party, and she had this story to tell. one of the things i did when i was first starting out doing my book is i would ask everybody i knew, "who are the interesting women you know, women who are working out some dilemmas and things of that sort?" and she happened to be at a party where i was at a party, and so as a working journalist, especially when you're starting out on a book, you're always working. c-span: how come the publisher didn't