jennifer rubin, the "washington post" there is bob, there is kevin. nnifer, i want to start with you. what more will we be talking about the morning after the debate? >> i'll give you a "new york post" kind of headline. 'bama bashed on benghazi. >> that's good. >> libya is becoming an issue, and joe biden actually opened up a couple of issues for him. you a drip, drip, drip now every day from "newsweek," from "new york times." a lot of finger-pointing going on between the state, between the intelligence community, the white house. i think the president is going to have to do some explaining. and i think mitt romney is probably going to begin to make this one of his top issues. >> kevin? >> the latest faked up scandal by the republicans, the nonscandal in benghazi. the headline is going to be signs of life, because i think president obama will show some. and at least try to contest that debate. i hope so. >> you think he is going to come out on fire? are we talking biden fire? >> i think he'll have biden type fire. >> okay. >> but i think he will at lea

and then cnbc contributor geoff jennifer rubin, author of the "washington post" right turn blog. jennifer was it a game changer for the whole presidential race? >> it potentially can be. what has to happen now romney has to build on that day after day. the difficulty they've had, this was true in the primary as well, they have a few good days and then they get off message or they fumble the ball a little bit. if they can string together one good day after another they only have to do it 33 more times they can get it done. >> growth, jennifer. growth, tax reform, lower the base, broaden the base, jobs. he had the kudlow script last night. >> he did. what is so telling is that the president is so thrown off balance he's insisting that romney has changed his plan because he wasn't giving the obama talking points. >> well now hold on. >> the democrats have mischaracterized romney's plans up the ying yang. so when he comes forward and tells what his plans are it's a shock. they think he's lying, they think he's changed. >> it was a game changer in this respect. before the debate republ

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and keith boykin former white house aid and jennifer rubin author of the washington poest blog. >> butover three debates what's your verdict did he open the door to independence, take them all as one. >> he came across at genuine and thoughtful. he has clearly helped himself with women voters. he's always counter punching that cheap shot bayonnet thing. a lot of navy people are upset with that. he is trying to praise him for syria and he is so negative keith. that is not going to help him. >> where were you at the first debate. suddenly things have chained. i think that president obama did a good job. he lost the first. he won the second. i think the democrats win most of the debates. i think still from the electoral college perspective romney is doing well in the polls, but last night what you saw, is you saw a man in mitt romney who is willing to shape and exa sketch and become a democrat to win the votes at the middle. he out flanked obama on the left on every single issue. >> here is what governor romney said. >> we can't kill our way out of this. >> sounds like a democrat. >> it s

>> right that poll should have never one and hats off to jennifer rubin for the "washington post" whoown newspaper on that poll and pointed out the eight-point margin of error and the slimness of it. what are the underlying assumptions about who is being polled. >> jim garrity talked about the sample size. the other problem is who cares about whether the whole nation thinks one thing or the other. even if the sample size is good, which a lot is not it's part of the election. >> part of the narrative for me on the polls we don't get a quick snapshot. 116 people, 500 people and you don't know what the question is. as we know, you can ask a question a lot of different ways to get a lot of different answers. >> jon: it's also true that i think most people when they read a headline, and "washington post" made a headline out of those poll results, most people won't be looking for the margin of error. >> you can make an argue in the post and times are deliberately highlighting poll results to increase momentum. i think that the reality of the polls, the pollsters as opposed to the headline w

instead you have to go to power line and national review and jennifer rubin to find out what he had toay. >> jon: do you agree with that? if our diplomats had been killed overseas it would have been leading the news for weeks? >> i think it's a news story and i think it was a news story. the question is, why wasn't it on the front page of certain papers? it's all over the news. in fact it was the lead question at the vice presidential debate. what strikes me is that the media is or are part of a political structure in the midst of a campaign. and the campaign for the romney team is very clear they see a vulnerability on obama's parted on foreign policy. they are using this story in particular and the media has to now decide what is the political attack, what it's at legitimate attack? >> if the obama campaign is trying to minimize the blow back from this, are the media helping them do this? >> duh -- yes, of course. let's give a shout out to laura, 60 minutes reporter, she had been assaulted horribly in egypt she might be in the minor leagues. she bravely spoke out and used the "l" wor

jennifer rubin, author of "the washington post" right turn blog and jamie peth kuke as, let me start with you. my note is a simple one. when he teed off and just accused of administration of mismanagement and i don't know if he used the word cover up and he said you guys have done everything wrong, to me, that hot topic which is increasingly important in this presidential race, that blew biden up, and that gave the win to ryan who held on for the rest of the hour. what about benghazi and what about biden's lies and falsehoods about benghazi last night? >> joe biden at least got the story in the front page of the new york times who had been burying the story and that's something and i think you're right and that will be a big problem for the obama ticket going forward. the president will have to do clean-up work on tuesday at a time that he wants to be on the offensive. there are two problems here and one is that we left those people vulnerable and we left those people to die. the international red cross moved out and the europeans had moved out. we took the marines out at a time that

jennifer rubin, rights for "the washington post's" right turn blog. political reporter for the huffington post. second biggest nationals fan behind me. welcome to all of you. i want to start off with this recent development we have seen in the last few weeks which is moderate mitt. a little video to play. we will get your opinion on the way out. >> we can't kill our way out of this mess. i want to keep our pell grant program growing. i'm not in favor of rounding people up and taking them out of the country. i'm looking to cut taxes for middle income people. number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> a new mitt romney. you are a self-described conservative hawk, if you will. how does this play within the base if he becomes president? >> well, govern sing a different proposition than campaigning. i think what's going on is every one of those little snippets that you have put out there has been part of the campaign. the question now is emphasis. they feel that they are