and, again, this is, i don't. >> jennifer rubin, the irs scandal.eting of mostly conservative groups really seems to have galvanized the press. . >> like all the scandals, the conservative media leads and the main stream media, which in any other administration is out in front, gets with the story a little bit later. they are too scandalous with the irs one is these groups and the other is individual donors who, themselves have been audited and that has been carried by the -- it's a bonified story the media likes it because it is a real scandal. secondly, it's easy. you didn't have to be following from the beginning, as you did on benghazi. third of all, it does highlight this famed cluelessness that the white house has. he just learned about it on friday. >> but, david shuster, it does seem many liberal commentators denounced the irs scandal itself and the administration handling of it and top officials knew about this or certain clues about this and did not inform congress. >> the problem is that the irs should have come clean. they should have sa

you have jennifer rubin, the aipac attack dog in the "washington post" saying the president should get go on to syria and iran. get over iraq? i would love to drag jennifer rubin kicking and screaming to walter reed to see the warriors she wants to us get over, to see the 900,000 backlogged cases at the va. >> the controversy right now seems to be about talking points and how they were changed. is it unusual to have talking points changed in the process? it seems to me like the white house didn't want to get it wrong, they were dragging their feet a little bit. or are they in on this, too? did they n your opinion, let the state department, the cia do their thing? what do you make of this? >> i've only spent 35 years, maybe long ner in government looking over talking points, generically speaking they change all the time. what presidents usually make errors at and departments and others make errors at is going too fast. trying to get the information out to the american people because it's usually a very rapidly evolving situation. to see a set of talking points change six, eight times is

to say that president obama says, quote, troubled by it but keeps the same attorney general as jennifer rubin pointed out, it's not believable that holder wasn't doing this even if he recused himself. >> jon: reaction from editorial boards, including the "new york times", your former employer, they wrote the obama administration officials often talk about the balance between protecting secret and protecting the constitution rights of the free press, accusing a reporter of co-conspirator shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and unconcern about a free press? >> really, the most fundamental questions about what this justice department is up to are raised by this kind of a search warrant, not only against james rosen but also against the a.p., and eric holder doesn't remember how many of these warrants he signed? how many he turned back for modifications. the president continues to maintain confidence in him raises a lot of questions. >> jon: we are also getting word the guy assigned to investigate these issues within the justice department is the head of the justice department. eric holder is going

let me correct myself jennifer rubin coming on here at 2:30 put in an article today to try to insulate yourself and plead with the bureau chiefs and insulate yourself and then tell those bureau chiefs that they may not speak to any of their reporters who are aggressively reporting on the holder spying situation and is that situation, you know, even close to a remedy even close to it a remedy for repairing what he has done? >> of course not. i mean, the whole thing is a complete farce. it's embarrassing that they even made this request to begin with. they have been slapping the press in the face unbeknownst to the press now for a number of years. now their big kiss and makeup moment is an off the record session as you say with bureau chiefs where, i don't know, what are they going to do bring them in there and massage their egos a little bit. we care about you, we value you. if you mention anything that was said in this meeting to your reporters. are the subpoenas going to start flying again who leaked what to their employees news organizations news organizations going along with it so

and jennifer rubin conservative columnist for "the washington post" has even called him a jerk. for ted cruz. before he thinks about becoming the next texan to run for president of the united states, before he thinks of his success in texas prepares him for the national stage my one suggestion teddy boy is talk to rick perry. have a great day folks. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: what? i have something on my lip. sorry, i was eating. >> i thought it was a secret. >> stephanie: the news broke yesterday about these three kids that were arrested.