you know i want to i want to point out very quickly jennifer turner the a.c.l.u. is principal human rights researcher and author of the report that did this and she said quote they are never criminally charged in the warmth or still civil but they still lose their liberty they don't have a criminal record but they suffer a lot of the same collage collateral consequences she's talking about people who go to jail for this kind of thing and this and people over two hundred three hundred dollars and all i mean are some things you go to something i mean was it the a.c.l.u. phone cases in which threatening letters were sent for debts as low as two dollars dollars are you going to send some of threatened letter for two dollars to go to jail so got you've. one in three americans has managed by a private collection agency to cry every body it's incredible i need percentage of defendants it goes against them i mean criminalizing proverb poverty is wrong it is that it is wrong it's doubly wrong and we will double or bottle that story because it's a big story all right as we