there is something jennifer williams submitted to supplement the record. it's classified, so we don't get to see it. the chief justice, the presiding officer of the impeachment trial put it into the record for the senators. mr. schiff urged them to go look at it. >> in termination of this document potentially being improperly classified, raised by adam schiff and on the floor of the senate by zoe lofgren. if it has been improperly classified and it should be something that the public can see, who adjudicates that? >> well, it's complicated. ultimately a court does if it gets to that. i do think we may be headed for a train wreck on classification, particularly if we get to the point where they subpoena documents and witnesses because they're going to try -- or bolton's testimony. they're now making plans to try to say that everything he's going to testify to is classified. you can't classify things just to keep them out of the public eye. there has to be a rational basis for the classification, and ultimately it would be a matter for the judges. >> we alre

here's how jennifer williams described it. the vp responded by really expressing our ongoing support for ukraine, but wanting to hear from president zelensky, you know, could convey back to the president. also wanting to hear if there was more eurocrane cow krapean could do to support ukraine. vice president pence knows president trump. he knew what president trump wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the president's two recurring themes. corruption and burden sharing. it's the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar readout of the meeting between the vice president and president va lzelensky. including the vice president's focus on corruption and burden sharing. here's ambassador taylor. >> on the evening of september 1st, iecting over the phone from mr. morrison, during which he told me president zelensky opened the meeting by immediately asking the vice president about the security cooperation. the vice president did not respond substantively but said he woul

and the vice president pointed to the open testimony of jennifer williams to support that contention. but the classified submission goes to that phone call between the vice president and president zelensky. you should read that. and ask yourself whether that submission is being classified because it would either embarrass or undermine what the president and the vice president are saying, or there is some legitimate reason for your the vice president at some point said he would like to release the record of his call. he certainly talked all about this issue, as has the president. if it was so classified, then why are they all talking about it? but we are to be assured that no, this classification decision was made absolutely aboveboard. i'm sure that john bolton's manuscript will be treated with the same rigid, objective scrutiny. you read that. don't take my word for it. you read that and ask yourselves, is there anything other than avoiding evidence that the administration doesn't want you to see, that the public shouldn't see jennifer williams' supplemental testimony? i don't think

jennifer williams, special advisor to the vice president for europe and russia, learned of the change in the president's travel plans on august 29th. the vice president's national security adviser asked that the request to vice president pence for an update on the status of the security assistance that had just been publicly revealed in politico and would be a critical issue during the bilateral meeting between the vice president and president zelensky in warsaw. the delegation arrives in warsaw and gathers in a hotel room to brief vice president pence before he met with the ukrainian president. national security adviser bolton led the meeting. as williams described it, advisers in the room, quote, agreed on the need to get a final decision on security assistance as soon as possible so it could be implemented before the end of the year. but vice president pence did not have authority from the president to release the aid. amend sondland also attended that briefing. at the end of it, he expressed concern directly to vice president pence about the security assistance being held until th

here's how jennifer williams described. the vp responded by really expressing our ongoing support for ukraine by wanting to hear from president zelensky, you know, but th with the status ofs reform efforts were, that he can be back to the presiden presided also wanting to hear if there was more that the european countries could do to support ukraine. vice president pence does resident trump if he knew what he wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the president's two recurring themes corruption and burden sharing. it's the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar beat out at the meeting between vice president and president zelensky including the corruption and burden sharing. here is ambassador taylor. the meeting september 1 i received a readout of the o meeting over the phone from mr. morrison, during which he told me president zelensky opened the meeting by immediately asking the vice president about the security cooperation. the vice president did not respon

jennifer williams, special adviser to the vice president for europe and russia learned of the change in the president's travel plans on august 29th. the vice president's national security adviser asked at the request of vice president pence for an update on the status of the security assistance that just had been publicly revealed in politico and would be a political issue during a bilateral meeting between president zelensky in warsaw. the delegation arrives in warsaw, gathers in a hotel room to brief vice president pence, before he met with the ukrainian president. national security adviser bolton led the meeting. as williams described it, advisers in the room quote agreed on the need to get a final statement on security assistance as soon as possible so it could be implemented before the end of the year. but vice president pence did not have authority from the president to release the aide. ambassador sondland also attended that briefing. at the end of it, he expressed concern directly to vice president pence about the security assistance being held until the ukrainians announced

jennifer williams who works for lieutenantne general kellogg now claims she has concerns about the call. you heard that from the house managers. they were very careful in the way they were did this. what they didn't tell you is that ms. wiggins was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people of her concern. she told no one for two months following the call. not one person. ms. williams didn't raise any concerns about the call when it took place, not with lieutenant joe kellogg, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams way to announce her concerns until speaker pelosi publicly announced for impeachment inquiry. the house managers didn't tell you that. why not? tim morrison was lieutenant colonel then men's boss was also on a the call. mr. morrison reported the call to national security council lawyers not because he was troubled by anything on the call, but because he is worried about leaks and in his words how we plan to washington's polarized environment. i want to be clear, he testified, i was that concern that anything illegal was discussed. esther mo

here is how jennifer williams described it. >> the vp responded by expressing our ongoing support for ukraine by wanting to hear from president zelensky, you know, what the status of his reform efforts were that he could then convey back to the president and also wanting to hear if there were more that european countries could do to support ukraine. vice president pence knows president trump and he knew what president trump wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the presidents to reoccurring themes -- corruption and burden sharing. it is the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar readout of the meeting between the vice president and president zelensky, including the vice president's focus on corruption and burden sharing. here is a bass that are taylor. >> on the evening of september 1, i received a readout of the pence zelensky leading over the phone from mr. morrison during which he told me that the president zelensky had opened the meeting by immediately asking vice president about the security cooperation. the vice p

jennifer williams, special advisor to the vice president for europe and russia learned of the change in the president's travel plans on august 29. the vice president national security advisor asked vice president pence for an update on the security assistance that had just been publicly revealed in politico and will be a critical issue during the bilateral meeting between the vice president and president zelensky and warsaw. the delegation arrives in warsaw, it gathers in the hotel room to breathe vice president pence. before he met with ukrainian president. nationals keep security advisor bolton led the meeting. as william describes it, advisor's in the room quote agreed on the need to get a final decision on security assistance as soon as possible. so that it could be implemented before the end of the year. but vice president pence did not have authority from the president to release the aide. ambassador sondland lynn also attended that briefing. at the end of it, he expressed concern directly to vice president pence about the security assistance being held until the ukrainians ann

jennifer williams, special advisor to the vice president for europe and russia learned of the change in the president's travel plans on august 29. the vice president national security advisor asked vice president pence for an update on the security assistance that had just been publicly revealed in politico and will be a critical issue during the bilateral meeting between the vice president and president zelensky and warsaw. the delegation arrives in warsaw, it gathers in the hotel room to breathe vice president pence. before he met with ukrainian president. nationals keep security advisor bolton led the meeting. as william describes it, advisor's in the room quote agreed on the need to get a final decision on security assistance as soon as possible. so that it could be implemented before the end of the year. but vice president pence did not have authority from the president to release the aide. ambassador sondland lynn also attended that briefing. at the end of it, he expressed concern directly to vice president pence about the security assistance being held until the ukrainians ann

here is how jennifer williams described it. >> the vp responded by expressing our ongoing support for ukraine by wanting to hear from president zelensky, you know, what the status of his reform efforts were that he could then convey back to the president and also wanting to hear if there were more that european countries could do to support ukraine. vice president pence knows president trump and he knew what president trump wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the presidents to reoccurring themes -- corruption and burden sharing. it is the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar readout of the meeting between the vice president and president zelensky, including the vice president's focus on corruption and burden sharing. here is a bass that are taylor. >> on the evening of september 1, i received a readout of the pence zelensky leading over the phone from mr. morrison during which he told me that the president zelensky had opened the meeting by immediately asking vice president about the security cooperation. the vice p

vice presidential staffer jennifer williams received a surprising call from the president's chief of staff. she described it during her public testimony. >> on may 13th, an assistant to the vice president chief of staff because that president trump had decided that the vice president would attend the inauguration in ukraine. she did not provide any further explanations. i relay that instruction to others involved in planning the potential trip. i also informed the nsc that the vice president would not be attending the inauguration. at present elect zelensky's inauguration. >> notably, williams confirms that the inauguration date had not yet been decided, scheduled at the time of that phone call. so the reason for president trump's decision was certainly not due to a scheduling conflict. the secretary of energy, rick perry ultimately led the delegation to the inaugural. >> representatives sylvia garcia from houston, one of the house impeachment managers continuing to make the case here. we are going to take a quick break and be back with the impeachment trial from the senate floor her

vice president -- vice presidential staffer jennifer williams received a surprising call. she described it during her public testimony. >> on may 13, an assistant to the vice presidents chief of staff called and informed her that president trump had decided that the vice president would not attend the inauguration in ukraine. she did not provide any further explanation. i relayed that instruction to others involved in planning the potential trip. us all informed the nsc that the vice president would not be attending so that he could identify head of delegation to represent the united states at present elect zelenski is inauguration. >> notably, , williams confirmed that the inauguration date had not yet been decided scheduled -- been scheduled at the time of that phone call. so the reason for president trump's decision was certainly not due to a scheduling conflict. secretary of energy rick perry ultimately led the delegation to the inaugural. accompanying secretary perry were ambassador to the european union gordon sondland, ambassador volker, and nsc director for ukraine

. >> an official says the document is supplemental testimony from jennifer williams. she's a national security aid to vice president mike pence who testified back in november. republicans who had been blocking new witnesses and documents, they say they're already growing tired of democrats repeating the same arguments. >> i didn't hear anything new at all. >> what we've seen is just a rehashing of yesterday's charade. >> but democrats argue if republicans want new information they should agree to the subpoenas that house managers have been pushing for, and they pointed to this remark yesterday from president trump. >> we're doing very well. i got to watch enough. i thought our team did a very good job, but honestly we have the material. they don't have the material. >> to be clear that is president trump bragging about withholding documents while on trial for obstructing congress and abusing his power. there is no question he's paying close attention to the trial. he posted 142 tweets yesterday, more than any day of his tweet filled presidency. cnn washington correspo

lieutenant colonel vindman, tim morrison and jennifer williams. each of them express concern about the call. lieutenant vindman and morrison immediately reported the call to lawyers. jennifer williams said the call quote struck her as unusual and inappropriate. and further quote more political in nature. senators, the american people deserve to hear if blair shared the concerns of the other officials who listened to the president's call. what was his reaction to the call? did he take notes? was he at all concerned like the other officials? did he know exactly what was happening and why? the evidence we have suggests that he did know. but the senate should have the opportunity to ask him directly. just 90 minutes after that july 25 call blair's contact at omb, michael duffy, sent officials at the department of defense an email to make sure that dod continued to freeze the military aid that ukraine so desperately needed. this email, like all others, was not produced to the house. however, it was produced pursuant to court order in a freedom of infor

lieutenant colonel vindman, tim morrison, and jennifer williams. each of them expressed concerns about the call. lieutenant colonel vindman and tim morrison immediately reported the call to nsc lawyers. jennifer williams said the call, quote, struck her as unusual and and, further, quote, more political in nature. senators, the american people deserve to hear if blair shared the concerns of the other officials who listened to the president's call. what was his reaction to the call? did he take notes? was he at all concerned like the other officials? did he know exactly what was happening and why? the evidence we have suggests that he did know, but the senate should have the opportunity to ask him directly. just 90 minutes after that july 25 call, blair's contact at omb, michael duffey, sent officials at the department of defense an email to make sure that dod continued to freeze the military aid that ukraine so desperately needed. this email, like all others, was not produced to the house. however, it was produced pursuant to court order in a freed

here is how jennifer williams described it.esponded by really expressing our ongoing support for ukraine but asking zelinski what the status of his reform efforts were that he could then convey back to the president, and also wanting to hear if there was more that european countries could use to support ukraine." vice president pence knows president trump, and he knew what president trump wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the presidents two recurring themes. corruption and burden sharing. it is the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar readout of the reading between the vice president and president zelensky, and including the vice presidents position on corruption and burden sharing. >> on the evening of september 1st, i received a readout of the pensive zelinski meeting over the phone from jennifer meeting in which he told me zielinski had opened the meeting by immediately asking the vice president about the security cooperation. vice president did not resp

shortly after the phone call, jennifer williams, advisor to vice president pence asked pence to attend zelensky's inauguration. williams and her colleagues began planning for pence's trip to kyiv and at the same time, giuliani was trying to get ukraine to investigate the bidens and the elected 2016 election interference. on april 24 giuliani went on fox and friends and had this to say. >> keep your eye on ukraine and a lot of the dirty work was done and digging up information,officials , ukrainian officials were used and that's why collusion with ukrainians or in this case conspiracy with the ukrainians. i think you'd get some interesting information about joe biden from the ukraine about his son hunter biden, about a company he was on the board of which may be one of the most crooked companies in theukraine . >> for this campaign to be beneficial to his boss, president trump, giuliani needed access to the new government in the ukraine. he dispatched his associates, lev parnas and igor fruman to try to make inroads the zelensky team. on april 25 former vice president biden publicly ann

jennifer williams who works for kellogg, now cla claims to have concerns about the call. they were very careful in the way they worded them. what they didn't tell you is that ms. williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people of her concern. she told no one for two months following the call. not one person. m ms. williams didn't raise any concerns, not with lieutenant kellogg, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams waited to announce her concerns until speaker pelosi publicly announced her impeachment inquiry. the house managers didn't tell you that. why not? tim morrison, lieutenant colonel vindman's boss, was also on the call. mr. morrison reported the call to the national security counsel lawyers, not because he was troubled by anything on the call but because he was worried about leaks and in his words, how it would play out in washington's polarized environment. i want to be claeear, mr. morrin testified, i was not concerned anything illegal was discussed. mr. morrison further testified there was nothing improper and nothin

and identified those witnesses as jennifer williams and tim morrison jennifer williams who works for lieutenant general kellogg now claims she has concerns about the call. you heard that from the house managers. they were very careful in the way they worded that. what they didn't tell you is that ms. williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people of her concern. she told no one for two months following the call. not one person. ms. williams didn't raise any concerns about the call when it took place, not with lieutenant general kellogg, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams waited to announce her concerns until speaker pelosi publicly announced her impeachment inquiry. the house managers didn't tell you that. why not? tim morrison who was lieutenant colonel vindman's boss was also on the call. mr. morrison reported the call to national security council lawyers not because he was troubled about anything on the call but worried about leaks and in his words, how it would play out in washington's polarized environment. i want to be clear, mr.

jennifer williams, special adviser to vice president pence for europe learned about the hold on july 3. she said it came out of the blue and had previously been discussed by omb or the national security council. the hold was never discussed with any policy experts in any of the relevant agencies. that's remarkable. president trump ordered a hold on congressionally appropriated funds without the benefit of any interagency deliberation, consultation or advise. the evidence shows the president's hold was an impulsive decision unrelated to any american policy. on july 12th, robert blaire e-mailed duffy at omb saying the president is directing a hold on military support funding for ukraine. this is according to sandy, the career officer at omb who got a copy of the e-mail. now, we don't have a copy of the e-mail because of the president's obstruction. but here is what we do know from mr. sandy's description of the e-mail as well as testimony from other witnesses. the hold was not part of a larger review of foreign aid. we do know it was not the result of a policy debate about what was bes

during her deposition, jennifer williams testified that she was vice president pence's assistant. she had testified that vice president pence basically reiterated that the hold on aid had been lifted and asked a bit more about how zelensky's efforts were going. and following her deposition and while preparing for her testimony at the open hearing on november 19th, williams reviewed the documents. they had not been produced to us by the white house. and those documents refreshed her recollection of vice president pence call with president zelensky. now, the white house blocked williams from testifying about her refreshed recollections of the vice president's call when she appeared at the open public hearing. they claimed that certain portions of the september 18th call including the information that williams wanted to tell us about were classified. on november 26th, she submitted a classified addition to her hearing testimony where she provided additional information about the vice president's september 18th telephone call with president zelensky. the intelligence committee provide

including ambassador sondland, ambassador taylor, david holmes, lieutenant colonel vindman, jennifer williams, and mark sandy, all testified that they were never given a credible explanati for the hold. so let's ask mr. blair, let's ask mr. duffey if this happens all the time, as mick mulvaney suggests. why at this time, in connection with this scheme, are all of those witnesses left in the dark? despite the president's refusal to produce a single document, to produce a shred of information, in this impeachment inquiry undertaken in the house, his administration did produce 192 pages of ukraine-related e-mail records in freedom of information act lawsuits. albeit in heavily redacted form. these documents confirm mr. duffey's central role in executing the hold. he's on nearly every single e-mail release. nearly everyglproduction. just 90 points after tminutes a 25th call, mr. duffey e-mailed officials at the department of defense that they should hold off on any additional d.o.d. obligations of these funds. mr. duffey added that the request was sensitive and that they should keep this informat

we've heard in impeachment inquiry testimony from a staffer, jennifer williams, who was tasked to theesident's office, that it was a very last-minute cancellation, that the president himself ordered that vice president pence should not go and nobody understood why. has there ever been a characterization by the vice president or his office as to what -- what president trump told vice president pence as to why he should cancel that inaugural trip? >> there's been limited information, and it's important to remember that it raises serious questions about secretary of state pompeo. because vice president pence is number two in the government. at the same time, secretary of state pompeo has a bit of a rivalry based on my reporting with vice president pence. the secretary of state tries to control foreign policy in all ways. so on the plane over to warsaw, for example, jennifer williams was sitting a couple of rows in front of me with keith kellogg, the foreign policy advisory in general to vice president. he doesn't have a big footprint in u.s. foreign policy. so pence aides continue to ins

witness testimony confirms this , vice president pencils advisor jennifer williams was concerned by the president's focus on domestic political issues rather than us national security because the president is not supposed to use foreign governments for political errands. she characterized the call as a domestic politicalmatter . here is hertestimony . >> during my closed-door deposition members of the committee asked about my personal views and whether i had any concerns about the july 25 call. as i testified then i found the july 25 phone call unusual because in contrast to other presidential calls i had observed it involved discussion of what appeared to be a domestic political matter . >> lieutenant colonel vindman thought the call wasunrelated to the talking points he had drafted for the president . >> it is improper for the president of the unitedstates to demand a foreign government investigate a us citizen and a political opponent . it was also clear if ukraine pursued an investigation that was also clear if ukraine pursued an investigation into the 2016 elections the bidens and

here's how jennifer williams scribed it. the v.p. responded by real expressing our ongoing support for ukraine but wanting to hear from president zelensky, you know, what the stat ugs of his reform efforts were that he could then convey back to the president and also wanting to hear if there was more that european countries could do to support ukraine. vice president pence knows president trump. and he knew what president trump wanted to hear from president zelensky. the vice president was echoing the president's two recurring themes, corruption and burden sharing. it's the same consistent themes every time. ambassador taylor received a similar readout of the meeting between the vice president and president zelensky. including the vice president's focus on corruption and burden sharing. here's ambassador taylor. >> on the evening of the september 1st, i received a readout of the pence/zelensky meeting over the phone in which he told me president zelensky immediately asked the vice president about the security cooperation. the vice pr

shortly after the phone call jennifer williams and then to attend the inauguration. and to begin planning for the trip. at the same time, giuliani was trying to get ukraine to investigate the bidens and election interference. on april 24 giuliani went on fox and friends and had this to say. >> keep your eye on ukraine a lot of the dirty work was done to dig up the information they used ukrainian officials light collusion with the ukrainians. or in this case conspiracy. we will get some information about joe biden about his son, hunter biden the company he was on the board of maybe one of the most cricket companies inmo ukraine. >> for this campaign to be truly beneficial to trump, he had to access the new government in ukraine. they tried to make inroads with the presidential zelinski team. april 25 former virus - - vice president biden formally announced his bid for the presidency in immediately at the top of the polls. that same day david holmes, an american diplomat at the embassy in ukraine learned giuliani had reached out to the head of president zelensky campai

vice president hence advisor jennifer williams expressed concern that president trump raised a demand -- domestic political matter on an official call with a foreign leader. she testified the mention of investigation struck her as unusual and possibly political in nature. she said i guess for me it shed some light on possible other motives behind a security assistance hold. timothy morrison, a former republican congressional staffer who replaced dr. fiona hill, in july of 2019 also reported the call to national security council lawyers. after the call, president trump continue to push this the scher work. on july 26, the very next day ambassador sondland and ambassador taylor met with president zelensky, and other ukrainian officials in kiev. according to david holmes, the ukraine-based u.s. u.s. diplomat who served as a notetaker, the ukrainian leader mentioned that president trump have brought up some very sensitive issues. during the july 25 call. very sensitive issues. ambassador sondland then had a private meeting with andriy yermak, president zelensky's top aide. the two men ins

can you assure us the jennifer williams document submitted to the house was not classified secret for any reasons prohibited by executive order 13526 such as preventing embarrassment to a person? if yes, please describe or identify the serious damage to national security that would be cause by d classifying this document by the same executive order. >> mr. chief justice and senator in response to your questio question, the child administration's policy is always to abide by the requirements of classification of material and the classification it's my understanding that document is classified because it refers to another document, transcript originally craft one - - classified i cannot represent you the specific reason the classification officer classified that document but i can tell you that it was originally classified according to proper procedures that is the policy of the administration to follow the classification procedures. the memoranda of the chief admitted derivative classified because of the transcript now that relates to a conversation with a foreign head of state almost

with this testament again confirms this, vice president pence's advisor jennifer williams was concerned by the president focusne on domestic political issues rather than u.s. national security because the president is not supposed to use foreign governments for political errand. she characterized the call as a domestic political matter. here is her testimony. >> during my closed-door deposition, members of the committee asked about my personal views and whether i had any concerns about the july 25 call. ast i testified then, i found e july 25 focal unusual guest in contrast to other presidential calls i have observed, it involved discussions of what appeared to be a domestic political matter. >> lieutenant colonel vindman also thought the call was improper and unrelated to the talking points he had drafted for the president. >> it is improper for the president of the united states to demand a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen and a political opponent. >> it was also clear if ukraine pursued an investigation, it was also clear if ukraine pursued an the 2016tion in elections,

feeona hill, jennifer williams, these are all individuals who were part of the trump administration and confirmed factually that there was a stunning abuse of power that the president engaged it as it relates to the ukraine scandal. that question is better directed at chairman schiff and speaker pa lowsy. -- speaker pelosi. reporter: question there was an imminent threat for soleimani. you also called him a terrorist and all the casualties he inflicted on u.s. troops. what's wrong with taking a terrorist out of the equation like this happened? mr. jeffries: i yield to my colleagues. that is an ongoing discussion. we need clarity from the administration as to whether this particular provocative action made america safer or not. president george w. bush and his administration made the decision affirmatively not to take out general soleimani. president barack obama and his administration, which of course struck the leader of al qaeda, osama bin laden, also made the decision affirmatively not to take out general soleimani. israel that has the capacity to trike someone like soleimani led by

. >> democrats submitted supplemental testimony that jennifer williams provided, why shouldn't the president declassify that document. >> i'm not going to distucson anything regarding national security matters. >> will you go short on saturdab monday and tuesday for all machines to see? >> look, here is the situation. the senators are -- they have the rules. our job is to play by the rules they set. if they want to go two hours, great. if they say they want to go longer, eight hours, we have to -- look this is the way it is. i am confident -- let me say this. i am confident that whether it is saturday or monday or tuesday, that the case will be made defending the president i have have no doubt. thanks, everybody. >> o'donnell: all right. thereof course jay sekulow one of the president's attorneys addressing reporters there. he made really interesting argument right there. >> in fact he seemed to -- i wouldn't necessarily say he backtrack the but certainly broadened their position. because up until now they have built their case around the type of argument by alan dershowitz that you must hav

jennifer williams, special adviser on europe and russia for vice president mike pence. you saw her testimony. they put it up. i did not have the opportunity to cross examine her if we call witnesses, we would have to have that opportunity. david holme the political council to the united states embassy in ukraine. saw testimony from him. were not able to cross examine. if he is called we'll call the ambassador and will cross-examine,. >> host: alexander vindman, appeared before the house with didn't have the opportunity to cross cross-examine him fiona hill. she is the former senior director for europe and russia on national security council. she testified for the house. if we have witnesses, we have the opportunity to call her then and cross-examine fiona hill. kurt voelker, they've called him, we did not have the opportunity to cross-examine if wore calling witnesses, he is a witnesses you heard from. we would have. the right to call witnesses and to cross-examine mr. volume kerr. george ten nat the deputy assistant secretary of state for fifth bureau of european and e

jennifer williams now claims she has concerns about the call, you heard that from house managers, theyvery careful in the way they worded that. what they didn't tell you is that ms. williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people of her concern. she told no one for 2 months following the call, not one person. ms. william didn't raise any concerns about the call when it took place, not with lieutenant general kellogg, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams waited to announce her concerns until speaker pelosi publicly announced impeachment inquiry, the house managers didn't tell you that, why not? tim morrison, colonel vindman's boss was also on the call, reported the call to counsel security lawyers not because he was troubled of the call but worried about leaks and in his words how would it play in washington's polarized environment, i want to be clear mr. morrison testified, i was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed, mr. morrison further testified that there was nothing improper and nothing illegal about anything that was said

identify the witnesses as jennifer williams and tim morrison. jennifer williams, who works for the general now claims she had concerns about the call. you heard that from the house managers. they were very careful in the way they worded that. what they didn't tell you is ms. williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people. of her concern. she told no one for two months following the call. not one person. she didn't raise any concerns about the call, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams announced her concerns when speaker pelosi publicly announced her public inquiry. the house managers didn't tell you that. why not? to morrison lieutenant colonel vindman's boss was on also on the call. he reported the call to the national security council lawyers not because he was troubled by anything on the call because he was worried about leaks. in his words, how it will play out washington's polarized environment. i want to be clear, mr. morrison testified, i was not concerned anything illegal was discussed. he f

identify the witnesses as jennifer williams and tim morrison. jennifer williams, who works for the general now claims she had concerns about the call. you heard that from the house managers. they were very careful in the way they worded that. what they didn't tell you is ms. williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people. of her concern. she told no one for two months following the call. not one person. she didn't raise any concerns about the call, not with counsel, not with anyone. ms. williams announced her concerns when speaker pelosi publicly announced her public inquiry. the house managers didn't tell you that. why not? to morrison lieutenant colonel vindman's boss was on also on the call. he reported the call to the national security council lawyers not because he was troubled by anything on the call because he was worried about leaks. in his words, how it will play out washington's polarized environment. i want to be clear, mr. morrison testified, i was not concerned anything illegal was discussed. he f

according to jennifer williams, vice president pence's aid, the hold on the aid, quote, came out of the blue because it had been previously discussed by omb or nsc. around july 12th, president trump directed that a hold be placed on the dod security assistance, as well. that day mr. blair isn't an e-mail to duffy informed him, quote, the president is directing a hold on the military support for ukraine. around july 15th, tim morrison learned from deputy director or adviser coverman, quote, that it was the president's direction to hold the assistance. several days later, duffy and blair again exchanged e-mails of ukraine security assistance and sandy testified in the e-mails that duffy asked blair about the reason for the hold. blair provided no explanation. instead he said, quote, we need to let the hold take place. and then, quote, revisit the issue with the president. between july 18th and july 31st, the nsc staff convened several interagency meetings and the hold on security assistance was discussed. remember those dates. july 18th to july 31st. according to mark sandy and other witn

jennifer williams said the call struck her as unusual and inappropriate. and more political in nature. senators, the american people deserve to hear if blair shared the concerns of other officials who listen to the president's call. what is his reaction to the call? did he take notes? was he at all concerned? did he know exactly what was happening and why? the evidence suggest he didn't know but the senate should have the opportunity to ask him directly. just 90 minutes after that july 25 call duffey sent officials at department of defense and e-mail to make sure dod continued to freeze the military aid to ukraine that they so desperately needed. but it was produced pursuant to court order of the freedom of information act lawsuit. that based on the guidance that they should hold off any other dod obligations at this time. duffey added the request was sensitive and they should keep the information closely held. this e-mail raises questions that duffey should answer. what exactly was the guidance duffey received? who gave it to him? wasn't connected to pres

and then beyond that, jennifer williams, aid to vice president mike pence, submitted a classified supplemental testimony. they can't release it publicly because it is classified. they asked the administration to declassify it, but chairman adam schiff has told me that he believes this would add another layer to this entire investigation if it were to be released publicly. those are just a lot of things we already know and the trial hasn't even begun in terms of what new evidence could potentially come out. >> andrew, they can't say chance that pelosi can still win a concession from mcconnell? is there a weapon that she has or an angle on this that we're missing? >> strategically she doesn't really have anything else at her disposal at this point. she wants to see the, quote, unquote, arena in which the senate would be conducting its trial before she names the managers. for example, she wants to know how long it's going to take each day, how many hours, how many days, how long are the opening arguments going to be, things like that so she knows, for example, how many managers to appoint. it's m

the first you do have access to and that is the supplemental testimony of jennifer williams and an encourage you all to read it. i think it sheds light specifically on the vice president and what he may or may not know vis-À-vis the scheme. there's a second body of intelligence the committees have been provided that is relevant to this trial you should also read and we should figure out the mechanism that will permit you to do so. because it's directly relevant to the issues we're discussing and pertinent and there's a third category that raises a very different problem. that is the intelligence committees are for the first time refusing to provide to the intelligence committee. and that material has been gathered. we know it exists but the nsa has been advised not to provide it. now, the director says that this is the director's decision nonetheless there's a body of intelligence that is relevant to request that we have made and that raises a concern than the one before this body and that is our now other agencies like the intelligence community that we require to speak truth to power that

so on the plane over to warsaw, for example, jennifer williams was sitting a couple rows in front of me with keith kellogg, the foreign policy general, but he doesn't have a big footprint in the u.s. government when it comes to foreign policy, so pence continues to insist about his limited knowledge or no knowledge. what did he really know back in the spring when lev parnas was referencing that whole episode and again on september 15? >> robert, i know you've been doing some intense reporting as to whether or not the senate wants to hear from witnesses particularly in light of what's been described as former security adviser john bolton's upcoming book. what's the latest as you understand it in terms of who is thinking about voting for witnesses and how they might get there? >> one quick scene briefly. earlier this month general patton voiced having bolton for biden, one for one, as part of the agreement. democrats have balked at this suggestion, but republicans say the fact that toomey even spoke out shows there is a little fluidity on the republican side. later at the lunch, leader

he said jennifer williams said the following. he said the vice president has denied it.said you've heard from sondland about information where he says this is what's going on and the vice president didn't say what are you talking about. that's adam schiff laying out all of the proof that's in the record. and then says and they won't let you see an additional piece of evidence that is inconsistent with what the president said. >> is this the part of the case that echoes nixon? that you have these tremendous national security powers but when you invoke and abuse them for these purposes you are actually potentially impeachable for that because nixon said to the cia you've got to shut the whole thing down and there are times when the cia steps in for the right reason, you tell us. i'm sure the fbi there are times you guys defer for the right reason. >> yeah, but this to me is an example of are you using classification authority just to say you know what, if it's bad for me it's classified -- >> is he? >> -- and if it's good for me it isn't. >> is he? >> well, one of the thin

earlier i said it was jennifer williams who heard from ukranians about wondering where the aid was, ioke. it was laura cooper who testified to that, she's the deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia. she said questions were raised to her on july 25th about the money. >> and that was interesting talking about jennifer williams and that testimony which you saw purpura talked about. the ukranians didn't know the president wanted a hold on the military aid at the time of the july 25th phone call, that we do know there were top ukranians who had been made aware by the president's own advisers that he did want to see these investigations, not always people that worked in the administration, a lot of rudy giulianis and other types pushing this. what he did say about jennifer williams, aide to vice president mike pence who was on that call, we didn't know she was on the call at the beginning until later, someone turned had he ever name over to investigators, said she was on the call. he said why didn't she flag it if she had concerns with it. she did say she believed the president's

morrison, jennifer williams all testified to taking handwritten notes during the july 25th call. williams, and lieutenant colonel vindman both testified that president zelensky made a reference to burisma that was not included in the memorandum that the white house released the public. here's a clip of their testimony. >> both of you recall president zelensky in that conversation raising the issue or mentioning burisma. do you not? >> that's correct. >> correct. >> yet the word burisma appears nowhere in the call record released to the public. is that right? >> that's right. >> correct. >> why you need documents generated after the calls and meetings? they would shed light on how these events were perceived in the white house and what actions were taken moving forward. for example, national security adviser john bolton wasn't on the 25th call but he was apparently informed about the contents of the call after ward. he's reaction once he was informed would be helpful to understanding the extent to which president trump's actions deviated from american policy and american security

scheduled to attend the ukrainian president's inauguration, but as state department official jennifer williams testified, trump told pence not to go. a decision made in the middle of trump and giuliani's pressure campaign. the question is, how much did pence know? last night lev parnas said pence knew pretty much everything. >> vice president pence has his planned trip to the inauguration canceled after you were unable to get the ukrainian government to commit to announcing investigations of vice president biden. do you know if vice president pence was aware that was the qu quid pro quo and that's why his visit was called off? >> i'm going to use a famous quote by mr. sondland -- everybody was in the loop. >> you believe vice president pence knew what he was -- knew his trip to the inauguration was contingent on those investigations being announced? >> again, i know he went to poland also to discuss this on trump's behalf. he couldn't have not known. >> that's parnas's characterization. he also offered back story when about what he says went down when pence was pulled from attending the ukrain