then when, when george bush senior was president, and he was looking for someone to to be his chairman of the trenches staff. it was actually dick cheney who had, who had suggested jenny, with the defense secretary at the time suggested power, which required power to jump over several other 4 start generals. he was the most junior at the time and, and then there he was. and of course then the persian gulf war came out, which is where empower, really became known to the american people. you know, he was the guy standing at the saw at the press conferences every day. he was the guy speaking, crisp, military language, all of which he learned in military schools, where he excelled in briefing, which is actually a skill right now. the terri, like another dimension of, of secretary powell was his time overseeing and working on conflicts. and so one of these was the 1st iraq war, and then you had later the 2nd iraq war during the 1st iraq war on the team with president george h. w bush. he was a, he was largely a hero of that along with other other general sort of looking at it and then pulling out us forces. when then later, the 2nd a walk war came in after 911. and you kno