rivals here including jenny craig and nutrisystem. weight watchers down 16% here in the afterhours.back to you. >> thank you, josh. and on weight watchers, karen is coming off what should have been a seasonally strong quarter, which would include the new year's holiday, but the outlook is also bad. >> this is a great franchise. i would love to own it. i think we might get a chance here. i wouldn't jump in tomorrow. i think this is a pretty significant miss, so, i want to really try to understand what exactly went wrong. i don't know if it's because jessica simpson is pregnant again, is that the issue? i don't know. but it's a great -- >> no, no, she's pregnant or that's an issue? >> that's she's -- it's hard to be on weight watchers, program, if you're pregnant. i don't know. >> stop right there. >> stop right there? >> you're a woman. you can say these things. >> it's a great franchise. at some point, it will be good to own. i don't think you have to feel that tomorrow is the only day to do it. >> okay, let's move on here. hedge funds said to be the smartest money on the street. bu