jenny linton is the president and sits on the board of directors as well. sometimes when i'm explaining to somebody i'm from san jose i have to explain it's south of san francisco. how do you explain san leandro to somebody who has no idea where it is. >> i say it's near the oakland coliseum. >> you know my pain, right? how do you get young engineers, we've seen san francisco just explode because that's where the center of culture is, the great restaurants. how do you get people to say i'd love to work in san leandro. >> the magic of bart. our employees live from san francisco, castro valley, san jose, all over the state. >> i'm curious how the city of san leandro feels about you guys starting this movement of more tech companies being there. you have this situation in silicon valley where you have too much of a good thing, in a lot of places they would be like a company is moving here and paying high paying jobs, right. here it's like, no, we don't want you to here. i mean, there's so much anger towards tech and what it's doing in a lot of places. what is